MWil23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 If somehow some stud falls to us you pull the trigger and draft him, period, unless he’s a quarterback or running back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: If somehow some stud falls to us you pull the trigger and draft him, period, unless he’s a quarterback or running back. It’s really that simple, just take a good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: It’s really that simple, just take a good player. Especially with the expiring contracts on several skill positions. I personally believe that there are 4 receivers and 1 TE worth a first round selection, so I’d rather get one of those dudes than reach on a marginal player at a position of need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Especially with the expiring contracts on several skill positions. Once these inevitable extensions kick in for Baker, Myles, etc, we’re gonna be hard pressed to pay 30 million a year for 2 WR’s who don’t produce at an elite level. WR is absolutely a need in this draft, I don’t want to depend on a rookie next year or the year after. Quote I personally believe that there are 4 receivers and 1 TE worth a first round selection, so I’d rather get one of those dudes than reach on a marginal player at a position of need. Yeah passing on a great player to take a decent player at a position of need (or whiffing all together) is not how you draft well. FA is for filling roster holes, the draft is about acquiring as much talent as you can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Once these inevitable extensions kick in for Baker, Myles, etc, we’re gonna be hard pressed to pay 30 million a year for 2 WR’s who don’t produce at an elite level. WR is absolutely a need in this draft, I don’t want to depend on a rookie next year or the year after. I couldn’t agree more. 3 coming off the books in the next 2 seasons and we need to reload this position group now. 5 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Yeah passing on a great player to take a decent player at a position of need (or whiffing all together) is not how you draft well. FA is for filling roster holes, the draft is about acquiring as much talent as you can. I’m very happy with What this organization has done so far in free agency. I am excited to see how this FO approaches this draft. If nothing else, I’ll be completely content if and when Chubb is locked in for a 4+ year deal. He’s worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I couldn’t agree more. 3 coming off the books in the next 2 seasons and we need to reload this position group now. I would be surprised if we don’t take one on day one or two tbh. 22 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I’m very happy with What this organization has done so far in free agency. I am excited to see how this FO approaches this draft. If nothing else, I’ll be completely content if and when Chubb is locked in for a 4+ year deal. He’s worth it. If I had to guess they will stick to the script of multiple year starters with an early breakout age who played for bigger programs/good conferences who have good or better athletic profiles. I wouldn’t expect one year guys, projects, workout warriors or 23 year old rookies (unless they produced for 3 years or so). This was the MO under Sashi and seemed to be the MO last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: I would be surprised if we don’t take one on day one or two tbh. I’m actually betting trade back from the first into the early 2nd. We will likely be out of range of those edge and secondary talent and upper tier skill guys. 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: If I had to guess they will stick to the script of multiple year starters with an early breakout age who played for bigger programs/good conferences who have good or better athletic profiles. I wouldn’t expect one year guys, projects, workout warriors or 23 year old rookies (unless they produced for 3 years or so). This was the MO under Sashi and seemed to be the MO last year. Hard pass on guys like Oweh then thankfully I’d imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: I’m actually betting trade back from the first into the early 2nd. We will likely be out of range of those edge and secondary talent and upper tier skill guys. I could see it. I could see them wanting to punt some of the value to next year just given the chaos of 2020 too. 3 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Hard pass on guys like Oweh then thankfully I’d imagine. Yeah I get the appeal of the freaks and thinking you’re going to mold them into something they’re not currently, but that’s a helluva gamble round 1. Im fine swinging for the fences day 3, but we need solid picks days one and two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What’s the hesitation with an off ball LBer? The team does not value the position. LB is a sub package position in this defense. Need every down players in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 19 minutes ago, ditchdigger said: The team does not value the position. LB is a sub package position in this defense. Need every down players in the first round. Only 2 players played more snaps than Goodson last season and he missed 2 games. What sub package doesn’t include a linebacker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Only 2 players played more snaps than Goodson last season and he missed 2 games. What sub package doesn’t include a linebacker? But if they truly valued you the position, do you think they keep Schobert or sign someone better. It’s not about a sub package positions, it’s just an under valued position. LBs to defense are like RBs to offense. You really don’t seek valuable draft picks or money unless the player is truly special. Everyone likes to blame the issues of the defense last year on the LB or at least the majority of the issues. Improve the secondary and DL and the Lb groups well do their jobs. That’s all you really need. With the issues with our IOL struggling to defend the run and our secondary being garbage, we were asking the LBs to take on way too many roles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, buno67 said: But if they truly valued you the position, do you think they keep Schobert or sign someone better. It’s not about a sub package positions, it’s just an under valued position. LBs to defense are like RBs to offense. You really don’t seek valuable draft picks or money unless the player is truly special. Everyone likes to blame the issues of the defense last year on the LB or at least the majority of the issues. Improve the secondary and DL and the Lb groups well do their jobs. That’s all you really need. With the issues with our IOL struggling to defend the run and our secondary being garbage, we were asking the LBs to take on way too many roles. I’ve heard this repeatedly and repeatedly seen perennial playoff teams invest in the position. At some point maybe we need to question the thought process. As I’ve said before, we don’t need 3 pro bowlers, but you need SOMEONE who is a difference maker at the second level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 49 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Only 2 players played more snaps than Goodson last season and he missed 2 games. What sub package doesn’t include a linebacker? Hard to believe Woods was operating his defense as planned with all the injuries in the secondary. LB is a role player in his defense. You don't draft role players in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 8 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: and thinking you’re going to mold them into something they’re not currently, but that’s a helluva gamble Certainly didn't work with my first wife! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchdigger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: , but you need SOMEONE who is a difference maker at the second level. That's gonna be a rover, not a traditional LB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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