HoboRocket Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Yin-Yang said: Going to see more of Simmons too? Always seems like Cards are slow to use their rookies. Yeah, it's likely. He's probably the primary reason why we haven't made any move to re-sign DeVondre Campbell yet. Like @Forge mentioned, Simmons had a large role in week 1, but it seemed like he gave up a big play every single time he was targeted. He did get better as the year progresses. Athletic freak and one of our more-reliabke tacklers. I imagine Joseph might rely on him heavily in our 0-6 sets. Losing Reddick hurt, but we still have some versatility in Simmons, Kennard, and Gardeck. Those three, with Golden and Jones in the 0-6 sets should still be really strong. Or 1-5 sets with Watt manning one of the A-gaps and Hicks or Simmons in the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtait93 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 He's still good. I like it for AZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, LuckyNumber11 said: Biggest reason why this group can outplay that one though would be Watt and Jones rushing the passer vs Reddick and Golden. The dip in talent in the secondary isn’t massive, if there’s any at all. But the upgrade with the pass rush should help this secondary immensely The pass rush was pretty good tho But the titans pass rush sucked. And Butler was better than every CB on AZ last year so going from theirs to AZ's should help. Edited March 25, 2021 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaveOurSonics Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 hours ago, DirtyDez said: Back to the scene if the crime: Too soon. And before you ask, it will always be too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboRocket Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 48 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: The pass rush was pretty good tho But the titans pass rush sucked. And Butler was better than every CB on AZ last year so going from theirs to AZ's should help. Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. And the pass rush was good, but we were going to have trouble having all of our pass rushers on the field when we had Reddick. With him gone, we still have a good four-deep group at EDGE, plus Watt generating pressure on the inside. And then with Zach Allen and Jordan Phillips returning to health, they should improve over last season. I'm thinking, just comparing apples to apples from 2021 to 2020's defense: SOLB: Chandler Jones > Haason Reddick WOLB: Markus Golden ~ Markus Golden LDE: JJ Watt > Injured Jordan Phillips DT: Healthy Jordan Phillips ~ Corey Peters? Definitely better in the pass rush, definitely worse in Run D. RDE: Healthy Zach Allen > Injured Zach Allen ILB1: Jordan Hicks ~ Jordan Hicks ILB2: Isaiah Simmons ~ DeVondre Campbell, but Simmons has more upside CB1: Malcolm Butler > Patrick Peterson CB2: Robert Alford > Dre Kirkpatrick NB: Byron Murphy ~ Byron Murphy FS: Healthy Jalen Thompson > Chris Banjo SS: Budda Baker ~ Budda Baker I'm seeing a decent level of improvement at 5 spots on D (SOLB, LDE, RDE, CB1, and FS). I see likely improvement at CB2, ILB2. I think there's still a chance that we improve at DT, but that's really the one spot that I think we regress in. The rest of the positions are par-for-the-course, but for the most part, those positions are positions of strength for our defense (SS, nickel, OLB). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, HoboRocket said: Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. And the pass rush was good, but we were going to have trouble having all of our pass rushers on the field when we had Reddick. With him gone, we still have a good four-deep group at EDGE, plus Watt generating pressure on the inside. And then with Zach Allen and Jordan Phillips returning to health, they should improve over last season. I'm thinking, just comparing apples to apples from 2021 to 2020's defense: SOLB: Chandler Jones > Haason Reddick WOLB: Markus Golden ~ Markus Golden LDE: JJ Watt > Injured Jordan Phillips DT: Healthy Jordan Phillips ~ Corey Peters? Definitely better in the pass rush, definitely worse in Run D. RDE: Healthy Zach Allen > Injured Zach Allen ILB1: Jordan Hicks ~ Jordan Hicks ILB2: Isaiah Simmons ~ DeVondre Campbell, but Simmons has more upside CB1: Malcolm Butler > Patrick Peterson CB2: Robert Alford > Dre Kirkpatrick NB: Byron Murphy ~ Byron Murphy FS: Healthy Jalen Thompson > Chris Banjo SS: Budda Baker ~ Budda Baker I'm seeing a decent level of improvement at 5 spots on D (SOLB, LDE, RDE, CB1, and FS). I see likely improvement at CB2, ILB2. I think there's still a chance that we improve at DT, but that's really the one spot that I think we regress in. The rest of the positions are par-for-the-course, but for the most part, those positions are positions of strength for our defense (SS, nickel, OLB). Robert Alford is damaged goods. They will draft a corner before R3. Simmons and Thompson “popping” are where this defense could take a significant leap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_W Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 that was a really great SB. wish we won it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber11 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Alford is definitely one where if we get anything out of him that’s awesome but if not whatever. Anyways if Surtain or Horn are on the board at 16 is take them, if not trade back for Newsome or Farley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landog3 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 lbh he is an very average corner who made a huge play in the super bowl and made some money from it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Landog3 said: lbh he is an very average corner who made a huge play in the super bowl and made some money from it revisionism. He was a legit pro bowl-caliber CB the following two seasons. His play fell off in 2017 and he never really returned to that level afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 27 minutes ago, Starless said: revisionism. He was a legit pro bowl-caliber CB the following two seasons. His play fell off in 2017 and he never really returned to that level afterwards. Do we still not know why he was benched for the SB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 minute ago, DirtyDez said: Do we still not know why he was benched for the SB? Maybe Belichick will reveal the answer on his deathbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 hours ago, DirtyDez said: Do we still not know why he was benched for the SB? The rumour I've seen posted is that he mouthed off at Bill's son Steve, who was the DBs coach at the time, and said he only got his job because of his dad. No idea if it's true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Starless said: Maybe Belichick will reveal the answer on his deathbed. On his tombstone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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