MKnight82 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Pick 11sanchez11 Position Pick beekay414 Position 1 Stephen Curry G 1 Giannis Antetokounmpo F 2 Jaylen Brown G 2 Zach Lavine G 3 Kyle Lowry G 3 Kristaps Porzingis C 4 Christian Wood F 4 Lamelo Ball G 5 Draymond Green F 5 Jordan Clarkson G 6 Demar Derozan F 6 Joe Ingles F 7 Royce Oneal F 7 Aaron Gordon F 8 Al Horford C 8 De'Anthony Melton G 9 Nic Batum F 9 James Wiseman C 10 Thaddeus Young F 10 Bogdan Bogdanovic F 11 Jakob Poeltl C 11 Matisse Thybulle G 12 Kentavious Caldwell Pope G 12 Kyle Anderson F @11sanchez11 PG: Steph Curry (35), DeMar Derozon (22)SG: Kyle Lowry (32), KCP (1)SF: Jaylen Brown (32), Royce O'Neale (15), Nic Batum (9)PF: Draymond Green (32), Thad Young (16)C : Christian Wood (30), Al Horford (15), Jakob Poeltl (1) @beekay414 PG LaMelo Ball | De'Anthony MeltonSG Zach LaVine | Jordan Clarkson | Matisse ThybulleSF Joe Ingles | Bogdan Bogdanovic PF Giannis Antetokounmpo | Aaron Gordon | Kyle AndersonC Kristaps Porzingis | James Wiseman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Share Posted April 1, 2021 Anyone can vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Beekay, in 6 or 7. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Beekay, in 6 or 7. Someone with sense. Finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 What a matchup Giannis has a lot to do on defense for BK Hopefully Wiseman doesn't play cause we're roasting that young man if he steps on the court Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: Giannis has a lot to do on defense for BK Yep. Just how it worked out for the starters. Ingles is a smart team defender but the other 3 don't defend a lick. I probably should've went with Giannis at the 5 and built that way but, if I were to do that with this lineup... Melton, Thybulle, Ingles, Gordon, Giannis would be the defensive lineup but I'd probably leave LaVine or Clarkson in for some offense and hope to hide them. Oh, and Wiseman is a rotational big, at best, here. I took him for the upside. I know, I know, it's a one year draft but I can't help it LOL. He'd play about a quarter and change with Giannis, Gordon, Porzingis manning most of the backcourt minutes or even Ingles depending on the look. Edited April 1, 2021 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Went with Beekay. Not a huge fan of a Lowry/Curry backcourt with Wood at the 5, think they'd get cooked defensively. Ingles, Lamelo, or Lavine running pick-n-roll with Giannis/KP or even even Giannis running pick-n-roll with KP would toast 11's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Beekay. I like his bench a little more and I think they have too much length for 11's team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Man, this one is tough. If 11 had a more dependable defensive 5 to help against Giannis then I'd go with him, but I think Giannis would annihilate the other team even with Draymond. Again, LaMelo is such a huge issue in a playoff setting. He played well with some great highlights, but I don't trust him at all to keep it up in a playoff setting right now. He's such a liability. 11's 1-3 is so perfect. BK has the far superior frontcourt. Ugh. Gotta think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Man, this one is tough. If 11 had a more dependable defensive 5 to help against Giannis then I'd go with him, but I think Giannis would annihilate the other team even with Draymond. poeltl is one of the best defensive rim protectors in the nba defensive FG% under 6 feet for JP: 46.6%. overall DFG% in 41.4. Spurs have a 108 drating when JP is on. DFG% for Gobert under 6 feet: 50%. overall DFG% is 43. Jazz have a 105 drating when Gobert is on. but still we could run PnR at Giannis every play with Curry. Curry is literally the most efficient scorer in the NBA when running PnRs. Wood is the 3rd most efficient rim finisher in the NBA this year after Zion and Giannis. Wood also shoots 38% from 3. The benefit of that is making every other player on his team have to rotate and getting giannis basically out of the play because you have come up to the screen v Curry or your roast. and if giannis is guarding Draymond we get to play 4 on 3 with Draymond on the short roll vs LaMelo, Lavine, Porzingis, and Ingles. They have no chance. 10 hours ago, NYRaider said: Not a huge fan of a Lowry/Curry backcourt with Wood at the 5, think they'd get cooked defensively both curry and lowry are two of the better rotating guards in the nba. lowry is just a very good defensive player in general. curry is good too. there is a reason both have been on top 5 defenses for basically the last 5ish years (prob longer for curry). Wood, okay. But both years in the NBA his team is about +4 drating better when he is on the court, which is good. like kristaps is -6 this year. CW has a 45 DFG%, which is slightly above average. And a DFG% of 53 under 6 feet, which is good (lg average is about 61, tho obvi bigs have better averages than the rest of players). I don't think there is a lot evidence that CW is a bad defensive player. I know a lot of ppl haven't watched him because both years he has been on absolutely terrible teams but both years he had about a +10 on/off which is crazy good. Edited April 1, 2021 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 Giving Curry credit for being on great defensive units is pretty wild. He's fine but the lack of size and rim protector aren't going to halt Giannis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Giving Curry credit for being on great defensive units is pretty wild. He's fine but the lack of size and rim protector aren't going to halt Giannis. He's good on defense tho. Obvi he isnt guarding Giannis. Idk if you guys remember a couple of months ago the team that beat the Bucks mostly guarded him with Jae Crowder... he averaged 21 PPG that series...he can't shoot. I'm guarding him with Draymond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 7 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: He's good on defense tho. Obvi he isnt guarding Giannis. Idk if you guys remember a couple of months ago the team that beat the Bucks mostly guarded him with Jae Crowder... he averaged 21 PPG that series...he can't shoot. I'm guarding him with Draymond. Flawed logic and half truths. The entire defense catered to Giannis, it wasn't one guy playing man. What about Steph Curry makes him good defensively? He's consistently graded out average to below average on impact stats. He has physical limitations, load concerns and being a good rotator doesn't make you a good overall defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: Flawed logic and half truths. The entire defense catered to Giannis, it wasn't one guy playing man. What about Steph Curry makes him good defensively? He's consistently graded out average to below average on impact stats. He has physical limitations, load concerns and being a good rotator doesn't make you a good overall defender. here's like 8 minutes or so explaining why curry is solid on defense in it, with the evidence: "impact metrics actually view him as a solid positive defender" https://youtu.be/bvTPxCOfjdE?t=1574 also can we talk about like lamelo, lavine, ingles, and zinger lol. also giannis is a terrible player to be the best defensive player on the team v curry. he is not good on the perimeter. ppl always say why doesn't giannis guard the best player on the other team, cause he isn't good at it. remember they put him on jimmy for a little while and he roasted him. here's a meme from the finals ok i'm done here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 2, 2021 Share Posted April 2, 2021 (edited) teams giannis has beaten in the playoffs in his entire career: pistons, magic, celtics this is his 8th year in the nba Leading scorers on teams that have beaten Giannis in the playoffs: DeMar Derozan (Lowry 2nd), Al Horford lolol (Jaylen 2nd), Kawhi (Lowry 2nd), Jimmy Butler Edited April 2, 2021 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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