FrantikRam Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 10:39 AM, MWil23 said: Baker Mayfield is actually a good quarterback He might be. But he's a less successful QB than Jared Goff, and while their play styles are different, Mayfield looks like a QB who will look good an elite OL and running game, not so much without it, so... Whatever your opinion of Goff is should probably be your opinion of Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 10:45 AM, ET80 said: Prime JJ Watt >>> Prime Aaron Donald Right @jrry32? Too many greater thans. No defensive player in NFL history is >>> than AD. Prime Watt > Donald isn't that crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Crediting wins and losses for QBs is just a way to fit an agenda, whether that's saying a mediocre QB is good because the team was good or that a good QB is bad because the team is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, FrantikRam said: Too many greater thans. No defensive player in NFL history is >>> than AD. Prime Watt > Donald isn't that crazy. No, there were enough >>> used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, FrantikRam said: He might be. But he's a less successful QB than Jared Goff, and while their play styles are different, Mayfield looks like a QB who will look good an elite OL and running game, not so much without it, so... Whatever your opinion of Goff is should probably be your opinion of Baker. Lol we'll see. Let's see what Baker can do in his second year with Stefanski. Ya know, the first time in his career where he'll have back to back seasons with the same head coach and scheme. Unlike Goff, who played under McVay for multiple years but somehow got worse over time. In the back half of last season, Baker played like a top 10 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Kyle Pitts should be the first non-QB off the board, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsch80 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 On 4/8/2021 at 7:57 PM, Danger said: Man y'all Ravens fans have a real persecution complex. Not really. Are you trying to tell me there isn't an over arching narrative about Lamar being a running back? I'm pretty sure that narrative is as strong as any in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Nut said: Kyle Pitts should be the first non-QB off the board, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT LAMAR!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 16 minutes ago, Letsch80 said: Not really. Are you trying to tell me there isn't an over arching narrative about Lamar being a running back? I'm pretty sure that narrative is as strong as any in the league. wahhhhhhh No dude, and there hasn't been for well over a year now lmao. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTrav Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 I don't know how the GM and Head Coaches of The Browns, Bears, 49ers, Jags, Titans, Jets, Chargers, Panthers and Bengals kept their jobs beyond 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 28 minutes ago, DawgX said: Lol we'll see. Let's see what Baker can do in his second year with Stefanski. Ya know, the first time in his career where he'll have back to back seasons with the same head coach and scheme. Unlike Goff, who played under McVay for multiple years but somehow got worse over time. In the back half of last season, Baker played like a top 10 QB. And Goff was in the MVP conversation for part of 2018. And Goff actually had a good first year with McVay, better second year, then regressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrantikRam Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ET80 said: No, there were enough >>> used. It's arguable that prime Watt was better than prime Donald, but it wouldn't be by much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsch80 Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Danger said: wahhhhhhh No dude, and there hasn't been for well over a year now lmao. Then you have been living under a rock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Letsch80 said: Then you have been living under a rock!! Or you and all Ravens fans have a confirmation bias from that one moron who's opinion doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted April 10, 2021 Share Posted April 10, 2021 Ravens fans tend to be a little overly sensitive when it comes to their quarterback. When he was just coming into the league, a lot of people predicted that he would go the way of many of the previous "running QBs" that came before him. He has proven to be a capable passer and a very good overall player. I think most rational people are willing to admit that at this point, but there are probably a few still out there who resent having to change the way they view the game. The game evolves, and while most of us can accept and even enjoy the evolution, there are a few who want to cling on to what they know and what they have always enjoyed. Nothing wrong with that, I guess. If I were a Ravens fan, I'd just let those people spout their opinions and ignore them. You guys have one of the league's great quarterbacks and the majority of people recognize that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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