aldashex86 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Flip Flop Mock 2.0. Eric has odds, Alex has evens. Big trades. Bring the hate. 1. Jacksonville Jaguars Trevor Lawrence QB, Clemson 2. New York Jets Zach Wilson QB, BYU3. San Francisco 49ers Trey Lance QB, North Dakota State **TRADE** Chicago gets: #4 Atlanta gets: #20, #83, #228, 2022 1st, 2022 3rd, 2023 1st 4. Chicago Bears Justin Fields QB, Ohio State5. Cincinnati Bengals Ja'Marr Chase WR, LSU6. Miami Dolphins Kyle Pitts TE, Florida **TRADE** LA Chargers get: #7 Detroit gets: #13, #77, 2022 1st7. Los Angeles Chargers Penei Sewell OT, Oregon8. Carolina Panthers Patrick Surtain II CB, Alabama **TRADE** New England gets: #9 Denver gets: #15, #130, #122, 2022 2nd 9. New England Patriots Mac Jones QB, Alabama **TRADE** Baltimore gets: #10 Dallas gets: #27, #58, 2022 1st and 2022 3rd10. Baltimore Ravens DeVonta Smith WR, Alabama11. New York Giants Jaycee Horn CB, South Carolina12. Philadelphia Eagles Jaylen Waddle WR, Alabama13. Detroit Lions Christian Darrisaw OT, Virginia Tech14. Minnesota Vikings Rashawn Slater OT, Northwestern15. Denver Broncos Micah Parsons LB, Penn State 16.Arizona Cardinals Caleb Farley CB, Virginia Tech17. Las Vegas Raiders Teven Jenkins OT, Oklahoma State18. Miami Dolphins Jaelan Phillips EDGE, Miami19. Washington Football Team Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah LB, Notre Dame20. Atlanta Falcons Kwity Paye EDGE, Michigan21. Indianapolis Colts Samuel Cosmi OT, Texas22. Tennessee Titans Rashod Bateman WR, Minnesota23. New York Jets Azeez Ojulari EDGE, Georgia24. Pittsburgh Steelers Najee Harris RB, Alabama25. Jacksonville Jaguars Trevon Moehrig S, TCU26. Cleveland Browns Jamin Davis LB, Kentucky27. Dallas Cowboys Christian Barmore IDL, Alabama28. New Orleans Saints Kadarius Toney WR, Florida29. Green Bay Packers Alijah Vera-Tucker IOL, USC30. Buffalo Bills Greg Newsome II CB, Northwestern31. Kansas City Chiefs Liam Eichenberg OT, Notre Dame32. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jayson Oweh EDGE, Penn State 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Works for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Interesting overall. I can see the logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFan13 Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I think im ok with this for the Falcons we get a ton of picks and still get a pretty solid top 15 player at Edge Rusher. Not sure how well Paye fits as a 3-4 olb but the talent is there as a player for sure. If Paye doesn't fit Peas system then one of Moehrig at FS or Harris at RB would be more than fine as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 I'd be very pleased with Slater to the Vikings. Either as an OG or OT option for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brushmyhair Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttitansfan4life Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Not a fan of taking a WR in a deep WR draft but it’s not horrible. Much prefer Barmore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m haynes Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 10:30 PM, aldashex86 said: Chicago gets: #4 Atlanta gets: #20, #83, #228, 2022 1st, 2022 3rd, 2023 1st This trade is ridicules for a team with so many holes. You only do this if its Lawrence and Wilson. The other QBs have holes in there games. Yes I know all players have holes but everyone know that Lawrence and Wilson the two elite QB in the draft. Also SF can do this at this point they are in completely different situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldashex86 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, m haynes said: This trade is ridicules for a team with so many holes. You only do this if its Lawrence and Wilson. The other QBs have holes in there games. Yes I know all players have holes but everyone know that Lawrence and Wilson the two elite QB in the draft. Also SF can do this at this point they are in completely different situations. Did you feel the same when the Chiefs went from 27 to 10 for Mahomes? I understand the compensation is questionable but, we used the draft network's tool for the trade. I don't think it will be that expensive but, that's what I traded in that mock so, that's why I put those picks. I think it would probably be two firsts and a third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 No way it’s costing the Chargers that much to move up 6 spots. 13 to 7 probably costs a 3rd rounder, 2nd at a push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m haynes Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 12 hours ago, aldashex86 said: Did you feel the same when the Chiefs went from 27 to 10 for Mahomes? No I only have hard time when teams make desperate trades and are in no position to do so. I also had Mahomes rated high in the draft. Yes you can hit it big however history shows this leads to failure 99% of the time. A example would be the Bears and Trubisky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldashex86 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, paul-mac said: No way it’s costing the Chargers that much to move up 6 spots. 13 to 7 probably costs a 3rd rounder, 2nd at a push You're kidding right? The Dolphins literally just traded up from 12 to 6 and it cost them swapping a 4th for a 5th and a 2022 first round pick. That was a month before the draft started when you don't know who will be available. After that clock starts and the picks become concrete instead of hypothetical, prices go up. Also, even the trade value chart says a third rounder isn't close. 1 hour ago, m haynes said: No I only have hard time when teams make desperate trades and are in no position to do so. I also had Mahomes rated high in the draft. Yes you can hit it big however history shows this leads to failure 99% of the time. A example would be the Bears and Trubisky. The Bears moved up one spot for Trubisky. I think the bigger risk for them was the Mack trade. Their defense improved but they pushed all their chips in with Mitch at QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-mac Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, aldashex86 said: You're kidding right? The Dolphins literally just traded up from 12 to 6 and it cost them swapping a 4th for a 5th and a 2022 first round pick. That was a month before the draft started when you don't know who will be available. After that clock starts and the picks become concrete instead of hypothetical, prices go up. Also, even the trade value chart says a third rounder isn't close. The Bears moved up one spot for Trubisky. I think the bigger risk for them was the Mack trade. Their defense improved but they pushed all their chips in with Mitch at QB. The Fish came in with a pretty silly overpay https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-Value-Chart.asp?RequestTeam=LAC According to this 15 to 7 is a gap of 350 points which is a late second rounder. The Chargers pick 47 would be an overpay, though the Lions could send their 4th back to balance it out a bit. Remember in most cases when trading up for anything other than a QB, you can underpay to trade up, because with supply and demand more teams are looking to move down than up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldashex86 Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 Next year's first is valued as a 2nd on your chart. The chart is a guide, not the end all be all. As you can see with trades at the next two picks, multiple teams wanted to move up. The chargers sweetened their offer to get their guy. Also, we did the draft on the draft network so, the other team has to accept the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onejayhawk Posted April 19, 2021 Share Posted April 19, 2021 On 4/14/2021 at 9:30 PM, aldashex86 said: 31. Kansas City Chiefs Liam Eichenberg OT, Notre Dame Give them Oweh. Last year they drafted an OT and redsh...he opted out. The more urgent need is DE, where they lost a starter and his backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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