big_palooka Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: Have you seen the BD Williams breakdown of Abram. He's a lot better in coverage than most would give him credit for. For example, did you see him jump the "Yankee" (deep cross) concept vs the Saints. BD even said, he has only seen a handful of safeties make those kind of plays on the ball. Not saying he's already a stud, but there are flashes of high end talent. See 6:25 onward I've seen this. You can certainly find some splash plays that get you excited. But the bad and terrible far outweigh any highlights. Here are examples of his poor angles, poor tackling, eye discipline. Playing lost and out of control. Things you hope can be corrected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I've seen this. You can certainly find some splash plays that get you excited. But the bad and terrible far outweigh any highlights. Here are examples of his poor angles, poor tackling, eye discipline. Playing lost and out of control. Things you hope can be corrected. He definitely needs real coaching. This staff is as good as it gets for DB’s. If he can’t get it done with them, it’s a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 44 minutes ago, big_palooka said: I've seen this. You can certainly find some splash plays that get you excited. But the bad and terrible far outweigh any highlights. Here are examples of his poor angles, poor tackling, eye discipline. Playing lost and out of control. Things you hope can be corrected. This is actually my favorite film Breakdown to site when talking about Abrams because it shows all of the good and all of the bad. What were you find is with a lot of it a lot of the things he does bad he also does really good so his main issue is really inconsistency and playing out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 Mayock recently praised Jones-Smith and said he could potentially start at RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidersAreOne Posted April 23, 2021 Author Share Posted April 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Mayock recently praised Jones-Smith and said he could potentially start at RT. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 6 hours ago, big_palooka said: I've seen this. You can certainly find some splash plays that get you excited. But the bad and terrible far outweigh any highlights. Here are examples of his poor angles, poor tackling, eye discipline. Playing lost and out of control. Things you hope can be corrected. Instincts are something I think that a guy either has or doesn't. Abram plays fast and is a great athlete but yeah, he just always seems to make low IQ plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Abram got a lot to change. His play speed and his ability to chase is really good. Those are two things that you look for. His physical attributes are good. With him its all between the ears. If Bradley can give him a couple of things to focus on which this system has known to be able to do then I would expect a nice turn around for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fracta Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Abram won't change a thing. He'll always be looking for that highlight hit even if it means taking himself or other teammates out. Doubt he becomes this mentally discipline player just because Bradley is here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddevil Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Fracta said: Abram won't change a thing. He'll always be looking for that highlight hit even if it means taking himself or other teammates out. Doubt he becomes this mentally discipline player just because Bradley is here. Well he won’t really have a different choice. He either does and maybe becomes a player who can have a role in the NFL or stay doing what he’s doing and never able to be trusted by a team in the league Edited April 24, 2021 by reddevil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, reddevil said: Well he won’t really have a different choice. He either does and maybe becomes a player who can have a role in the NFL or stay doing what he’s doing and never able to be trusted by a team in the league The fact that we brought Joseph back as insurance for Abram isn't a great sign that the staff believes in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante9876 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Abram can definitely change and get better. He needs a coach to humble him though. Actually get on him and pull him if he don't get it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, dante9876 said: Abram can definitely change and get better. He needs a coach to humble him though. Actually get on him and pull him if he don't get it. Abram just lacks instincts in coverage and has since college. He's definitely a great athlete and lays the wood, but his style of play isn't really suited for the modern NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 25 minutes ago, dante9876 said: Abram can definitely change and get better. He needs a coach to humble him though. Actually get on him and pull him if he don't get it. Yeah I agree, also needs to have better teammates round him where he can concentrate on his job and not think he has to make the big play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 15 hours ago, dante9876 said: Abram can definitely change and get better. He needs a coach to humble him though. Actually get on him and pull him if he don't get it. Been the same player since college. No evidence he can improve thus far in his career. For as hard as he can hit, he's miserable in the open field. Abram represents the worst for Raider fans.... He's going to be the prototypical player here who makes a splashy play or big hit and Raider fans go nuts. Only to be followed by mistakes, whiffs, bad angles and getting burned in coverage. But Raider fans will apologize for him for years because of those splash plays and draft positions. We've seen this story for years. Raider fans overrate the worst players because of some splashy plays. It's already happening with Abram. Graded out as the single worst safety in the league. Yet apparently all he needs is better coaching and Gus Bradley will fix him. I'm not convinced obviously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 8 hours ago, big_palooka said: Been the same player since college. No evidence he can improve thus far in his career. For as hard as he can hit, he's miserable in the open field. Abram represents the worst for Raider fans.... He's going to be the prototypical player here who makes a splashy play or big hit and Raider fans go nuts. Only to be followed by mistakes, whiffs, bad angles and getting burned in coverage. But Raider fans will apologize for him for years because of those splash plays and draft positions. We've seen this story for years. Raider fans overrate the worst players because of some splashy plays. It's already happening with Abram. Graded out as the single worst safety in the league. Yet apparently all he needs is better coaching and Gus Bradley will fix him. I'm not convinced obviously. The splash plays show rare talent though. As BD said, how many safeties are making run stops when they’re out of the picture on even all 22. Or are recovering on a deep route to break up a pass on Tyreek hill. I think Abram plays like an idiot and needs to get a lot cleaned up, but let’s not act like he’s some kind of talentless bum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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