SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 12 hours ago, NYRaider said: And we had $12M less this year because he asked to be let go, in a year that is very likely a make or break year for Carr, Mayock, and possibly Gruden... It’s been a make or break year for Carr as soon as he was drafted 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 For all you Garden haters lets put this to rest one last time. Mack clearly was frustrated that the Raiders decided to extend quarterback Derek Carr and guard Gabe Jackson’s contracts — both fellow 2014 draft picks — before taking care of him. And they spent their 2018 budget on other players, leaving them enough cap space to only afford the $13.8 million that Mack was due to make on his fifth-year option. “From that point on, (Mack) would not talk to anyone in our organization,” owner Mark Davis told ESPN in November 2018. “Not (general manager) Reggie (McKenzie), not Jon, not anybody. … Everybody thinks that Jon’s the one who wanted to get rid of him. Jon wanted him badly.” https://www.yahoo.com/sports/don-t-forget-reggie-mckenzie-123917242.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said: For all you Garden haters lets put this to rest one last time. Mack clearly was frustrated that the Raiders decided to extend quarterback Derek Carr and guard Gabe Jackson’s contracts — both fellow 2014 draft picks — before taking care of him. And they spent their 2018 budget on other players, leaving them enough cap space to only afford the $13.8 million that Mack was due to make on his fifth-year option. “From that point on, (Mack) would not talk to anyone in our organization,” owner Mark Davis told ESPN in November 2018. “Not (general manager) Reggie (McKenzie), not Jon, not anybody. … Everybody thinks that Jon’s the one who wanted to get rid of him. Jon wanted him badly.” https://www.yahoo.com/sports/don-t-forget-reggie-mckenzie-123917242.html Whenever I say this it gets ignored. now watch someone’s gonna say “ Mark Davis was supposed to say that” smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: For all you Garden haters lets put this to rest one last time. Mack clearly was frustrated that the Raiders decided to extend quarterback Derek Carr and guard Gabe Jackson’s contracts — both fellow 2014 draft picks — before taking care of him. And they spent their 2018 budget on other players, leaving them enough cap space to only afford the $13.8 million that Mack was due to make on his fifth-year option. “From that point on, (Mack) would not talk to anyone in our organization,” owner Mark Davis told ESPN in November 2018. “Not (general manager) Reggie (McKenzie), not Jon, not anybody. … Everybody thinks that Jon’s the one who wanted to get rid of him. Jon wanted him badly.” https://www.yahoo.com/sports/don-t-forget-reggie-mckenzie-123917242.html By the way for the record the reason why Reggie thought that he was smart and doing that was because of the fluke 2016 year where they were bad on defense but still were able to go to the playoffs because the offense was going against bottom 11 teams and/or bottom 10 defenses Edited August 25, 2021 by Jeremy408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 17 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: He didn’t help with Situation this year but if you actually understand the cap you understand that next year one of the reasons why we will have $50 million is because we’re not on the books anymore for him. That’s a very important piece of this whole thing. He can’t be cut for another two years without surrendering dad money so the idea was we might as well get a third round pick for him while people still value him highly because as he gets older he won’t be valued at third round pick but you also can’t move on from him so you’ll end up being stuck in this weird purgatory situation Can you please provide a link to Hudson's contract details year by year. I do not know where you are getting all this guaranteed money from. Hudson's total deal was for 33 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 23 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: Can you please provide a link to Hudson's contract details year by year. I do not know where you are getting all this guaranteed money from. Hudson's total deal was for 33 million. Here are both of them:https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/rodney-hudson-7774/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/andre-james-29367/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 12 hours ago, Turnobili said: i just like getting ahead of market, before cap inflation, etc. part of why carr looks like a bargain now is because he was extended a while ago well next year cap relief: Hudson contract off the books Nassib and Kwit(make or break year for him) cut Not picking up Ferrell 5th year option, big year for him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said: For all you Garden haters lets put this to rest one last time. Mack clearly was frustrated that the Raiders decided to extend quarterback Derek Carr and guard Gabe Jackson’s contracts — both fellow 2014 draft picks — before taking care of him. And they spent their 2018 budget on other players, leaving them enough cap space to only afford the $13.8 million that Mack was due to make on his fifth-year option. “From that point on, (Mack) would not talk to anyone in our organization,” owner Mark Davis told ESPN in November 2018. “Not (general manager) Reggie (McKenzie), not Jon, not anybody. … Everybody thinks that Jon’s the one who wanted to get rid of him. Jon wanted him badly.” https://www.yahoo.com/sports/don-t-forget-reggie-mckenzie-123917242.html That’s exactly how I remembered it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer026 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Thinking of putting another big bet on our over wins this year. Only need to go 7-10 for it to void and 8-9 to win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 Richie Incognito Mic'd up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJrnhIW076E Found this pretty interesting............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drfrey13 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: Here are both of them:https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/arizona-cardinals/rodney-hudson-7774/ https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/las-vegas-raiders/andre-james-29367/ Sorry I was not more clear but I wanted to find the yearly details of the Hudson contract with us. I am sure we paid all of his guaranteed money when we traded him. So getting out of his contract over the next couple years would not have been that big of a deal. I believe he had very little guaranteed after this year but since spotrac erases the information once they have a new contract I can not find it. From what I remember he only had guarantees from the restructuring bonus which was $3-4 million a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Blazer026 said: Thinking of putting another big bet on our over wins this year. Only need to go 7-10 for it to void and 8-9 to win. 8-9 seems about right. Winner winner chicken dinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 3 hours ago, Jeremy408 said: By the way for the record the reason why Reggie thought that he was smart and doing that was because of the fluke 2016 year where they were bad on defense but still were able to go to the playoffs because the offense was going against bottom 11 teams and/or bottom 10 defenses it was no fluke, you are who your record says you are we beat some good teams that year. you can use this logic every year if this was the case. the biggest mistake we made the year after was turning over the offense to Downing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Blazer026 said: Thinking of putting another big bet on our over wins this year. Only need to go 7-10 for it to void and 8-9 to win. same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBXISBXVSBXVIII Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, Darbsk said: Richie Incognito Mic'd up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJrnhIW076E Found this pretty interesting............. Gotta love the big uglies except for Cle’s bird legs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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