FGK Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 The FO has earned the benefit of the doubt from me. So I'll wait and see what we do with the cap space. If we get Mo Hurst and a boundary corner, excellent, great job. If we get Geno Atkins and someone else? Awesome, love it. If we don't get another DT until the draft and we sign a meh player with Richardson's cap? Then I'll be bummed. But this FO doesn't operate without a reason. I gotta think a signing is incoming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns10 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Had to think this was all planned out with the Malik Jackson signing. Essentially the same player IMO only way cheaper. Sheld was great for us but it’s all part of the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, nugpimpen said: Definitely seems like a cap flexibility move for down the road. Part of me is glad that they are being smart for the future but I also like Sheldon. Not at 12 mil, but also better than the gaping hole he leaves behind. Go get Mo Hurst and make me feel better. That was my thought, go sign Hurst to a 1 year 4m deal and do the whole Moneyball thing. Moneyball it up boyyyyyz. Edited April 16, 2021 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Garrett billings jackson clowney Garrett larry o richardson Vernon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Richardson was fine, not 13 million a year good. I wouldn’t doubt we can sign someone right now for a 1/3 of the price who gives 90% of the production. We didn’t sign all these dudes and fill holes and such just to downgrade, I fully expect another move to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Kinda wonder if they want a NT instead of Sheldon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, candyman93 said: Kinda wonder if they want a NT instead of Sheldon. They have to beat the Ravens to win the division. They need to be able to be stout up the middle. I wouldn't mind at all if they got another beef cake in there just to take up space and hold the LOS. Edited April 16, 2021 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeHDruiD Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Billings is a top notch run stuffer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, DizzyDean said: Sorry friend, Ward yes. Baker? Yes. Chubb will not get a second contract with the browns though. #MoneyBall We'll see. If we start phasing him out I'll believe it but until then I think we at least try to resign him. I'd certainly rather have him and Higgins than OBJ and they are probably cheaper together than OBJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 3 hours ago, FGK said: I gotta think a signing is incoming. Me, too. A trade for a solid CB is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Hell, they could trade for Gilmore and sign Hurst and have some space left over from the space they gained releasing Richardson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: We'll see. If we start phasing him out I'll believe it but until then I think we at least try to resign him. I'd certainly rather have him and Higgins than OBJ and they are probably cheaper together than OBJ. We won’t phase him out. We will use him as much as always while he is here. But he will earn a market setting contract. A moneyball team does not view RB as a valued position. It is viewed as easily filled. There are low round drafted and even undrafted RBs that thrive every single year. Pay Chubb $18 million a year for 1500 yards or pay another player $3.5 million a year for 1350 yards? That extra 15 or so million is better spent on maintaining an elite oline. Paying your franchise QB, and keeping a stout DLine and secondary. That is where moneyball teams like to concentrate the dollars. Hunt is great in his own right. I expect him to stay and transition to starter. I would not at all be surprised if we draft a day 3 RB this year to groom to replace Hunt as Hunt will replace Chubb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Chubb isn’t leaving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyDean Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, brownie man said: Chubb isn’t leaving Moneyball says otherwise. He will be here in 2021, we MIGHT franchise him for 2022, but I doubt it. The moneyball thing to do is to either let him walk when the contract is up and get the comp pick, or trade him now in a Hershel Walker type of trade. I think we are chasing the trophy in 2021, so the comp pick will be the path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 50 minutes ago, DizzyDean said: We won’t phase him out. We will use him as much as always while he is here. But he will earn a market setting contract. A moneyball team does not view RB as a valued position. It is viewed as easily filled. There are low round drafted and even undrafted RBs that thrive every single year. Pay Chubb $18 million a year for 1500 yards or pay another player $3.5 million a year for 1350 yards? That extra 15 or so million is better spent on maintaining an elite oline. Paying your franchise QB, and keeping a stout DLine and secondary. That is where moneyball teams like to concentrate the dollars. Hunt is great in his own right. I expect him to stay and transition to starter. I would not at all be surprised if we draft a day 3 RB this year to groom to replace Hunt as Hunt will replace Chubb. Chubb won't get 18 million. I think we could sign him right now for 4 years for 48 million. The bigger money goes to the dual threat RBs like McCaffrey and Kamara. If you throw 3 undrafted free agent wide receivers you are still getting receiving stats but it doesn't equal what you get from 3 good receivers. Same with RB. If you have a top 3 RB you try to keep him. Weeden could throw for 4000 yards but that doesn't mean you want him starting. I understand RB is devalued but great ones are still great and difference makers and Chubb is a difference maker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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