NudeTayne Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Big fan of this move. 🙌🙌🙌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamblinMan99 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: Well, you can take a look at the QB's Mike Tomlin has drafted during his tenure to get an idea of what he would have tried to do at the QB position if he wasn't gifted a franchise guy from the start of it. Exactly.   Dennis Dixon, Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs, Mason Rudolph.  They have all been terrible.   Tomlin had no drafting talent, nor is he capable of holding a football team together.   The real problem is the ownership.  For Art Rooney to even keep him around this long just proves that he’s in total lockstep with the NFL and their agenda.  Forget about firing him and getting a solid coach in there.  No, they have other priorities.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: The argument keeps going back to this. Everything bad is Tomlin. Everything good is Ben. It's a very similar argument Ben haters make. I'm not trying to convince anyone that Tomlin is the best coach in the league. I just think the extreme hate for him is weird. Here's the argument. The Steelers will never sniff another Lombardi under Tomlin. Once Ben and Colbert leave, he's going to limp along until he mercifully and finally decides to retire. Because we all know the Rooney's aint firing him. As some Steelers fans have been wont to say, has more job security than the Pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: Here's the argument. The Steelers will never sniff another Lombardi under Tomlin. Once Ben and Colbert leave, he's going to limp along until he mercifully and finally decides to retire. Because we all know the Rooney's aint firing him. As some Steelers fans have been wont to say, has more job security than the Pope. I'm glad you have the ability to see the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, MOSteelers56 said: I'm glad you have the ability to see the future. Well, I've been right for like the last five years so I'll keep betting the way I have. The reality is that more and more Steelers fans come over to my side of the argument every year. And that includes on here even if they refuse to acknowledge it. True Tomlin defenders are a dying breed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7DnBrnc53 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 This is sad. It shows me that the Steelers aren't about winning anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Tomlin, McCarthy and Payton are pretty much identical. Tomlin is a historically great coach. He's top 10ish all time in win% for modern-NFL coaches. Can't really crap on this move too much, but sometimes a change of scenery helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Tomlin, McCarthy are pretty much identical. Fify Edited April 20, 2021 by NudeTayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Blackstar12 said: To the guys saying he sucks or want him gone. Be careful good coaches are very hard to come by. We live in a world where Nick Siriranni and David Culley have HC jobs, a world where Bill O'Brien and Chuck Pagano were HCs. So... yeah. Don't assume that average coaches are a foregone conclusion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, NudeTayne said: Fify I don't think Payton is too far behind the other two. He's right up there as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't think Payton is too far behind the other two. He's right up there as well. We'll see what Payton does without Brees. I think he's way better than the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 44 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: Well, I've been right for like the last five years so I'll keep betting the way I have. The reality is that more and more Steelers fans come over to my side of the argument every year. And that includes on here even if they refuse to acknowledge it. True Tomlin defenders are a dying breed. Hey, I respect it. I try not to get too attached or against anyone on the team. I've stopped caring enough for that. I just want to see what Tomlin can do without Ben. I like him, but I'm far from a true Tomlin defender. These last couple of years have been bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, RamblinMan99 said: Dennis Dixon, Landry Jones, Josh Dobbs, Mason Rudolph.  They have all been terrible.   Tomlin had no drafting talent, nor is he capable of holding a football team together.  This is what I'm arguing against. Stupid hate. So we draft average QBs exactly where average QBs are drafted. I'm sorry that every backup we draft isn't Tom Brady. I suppose if we had a good coach we'd have HOF talent at every position including backups. We'd also never lose and we'd have had 25 rings in the last 25 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 26 minutes ago, ET80 said: We live in a world where Nick Siriranni and David Culley have HC jobs, a world where Bill O'Brien and Chuck Pagano were HCs. So... yeah. Don't assume that average coaches are a foregone conclusion. A world where a coach can go 19-29 and still get paid 10 million per year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinSting Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: That's how I feel. I like what he's done with the defense. He built on what Lebeau did and put his own twist on it. I want to see what he can do on the offense. Yes but Steelers just don't blitz enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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