the lone star Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 What do you all think? The last graphic shows the top 10, followed by the next 4 players (KD, Kobe, Admiral, and Walton) who just missed the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkeyDoke21 Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Early 80's Moses should at least be in that next 4 group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Ben is a tremendous basketball mind. The amount of research and effort he puts into his work is pretty awesome. I might not agree with everything he says but realistically he's a better, more informed judge than I am and his logic is usually sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 kg and duncan being so high was kinda crazy to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 10 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: kg and duncan being so high was kinda crazy to me KG being so high was surprising, but had to think Duncan would make it in. The top 2 were obvious right from the start. Hard to argue at all with the other 13, though a few names probably have some arguments. Wade, Dirk, McGrady, Dwight, Harden, and Giannis come to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted April 22, 2021 Author Share Posted April 22, 2021 KG's peak season was statistically really good. I wasn't too surprised by that, but when it comes to voting, I would have expected a guy like Kobe to make the top 10 tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 IMO Shaq is a little overrated but I get it. He physically was impossible to stop but his game wasn't versatile at all. Like there's a reason Shaq is the most swept NBA player of all time. Its because when what he tried to do didn't work he couldn't adapt. I get that he won 3 rings in a row, and 1 in an all-time dominant fashion, but its not like he was so much better those years than the 3-4 years before and 3-4 years after. The way everything lined up just worked and thats the way the cards landed. The rest of the NBA was worse and his teammates were better during those years. I'd have Kareem 2nd and LeBron third. I like that they gave Steph his due. Duncan should be higher. Dirk's 2011 season needs to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 21 hours ago, seminoles1 said: KG being so high was surprising, but had to think Duncan would make it in. The top 2 were obvious right from the start. Hard to argue at all with the other 13, though a few names probably have some arguments. Wade, Dirk, McGrady, Dwight, Harden, and Giannis come to mind. KG's 2004 is pretty much god tier basketball and he was already amazing in 2003. T-Mac and Dwight are guys I really enjoyed at their peak but they simply don't compare to these guys. I think (but I'm not positive) that he does two year peak which would really hurt T-Mac. 10 hours ago, roger murdock said: IMO Shaq is a little overrated but I get it. He physically was impossible to stop but his game wasn't versatile at all. Like there's a reason Shaq is the most swept NBA player of all time. Its because when what he tried to do didn't work he couldn't adapt. I get that he won 3 rings in a row, and 1 in an all-time dominant fashion, but its not like he was so much better those years than the 3-4 years before and 3-4 years after. The way everything lined up just worked and thats the way the cards landed. The rest of the NBA was worse and his teammates were better during those years. I'd have Kareem 2nd and LeBron third. I like that they gave Steph his due. Duncan should be higher. Dirk's 2011 season needs to be here. If it's two year peak Dirk's 11 would be surrounded by 10 or 12 and neither of those are ATG seasons. Either way 2011 is better narratively than it is qualitatively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, Bullet Club said: KG's 2004 is pretty much god tier basketball and he was already amazing in 2003. T-Mac and Dwight are guys I really enjoyed at their peak but they simply don't compare to these guys. I think (but I'm not positive) that he does two year peak which would really hurt T-Mac. Oh, no argument from me at all. KG is one of my favorite players ever and I'll go to bat for his peak in Minnesota being top 10 all-time. I'm just surprised he actually made it based on name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted April 23, 2021 Share Posted April 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: Oh, no argument from me at all. KG is one of my favorite players ever and I'll go to bat for his peak in Minnesota being top 10 all-time. I'm just surprised he actually made it based on name. Ben goes pretty in-depth into value brought on the court as opposed to name value. You should check out his backpicks top 40 players list. It has tons of awesome info. It hasn't been updated in a few years but I believe he's said LeBron would currently be his #1. https://backpicks.com/2017/12/11/the-backpicks-goat-the-40-best-careers-in-nba-history/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I was touched to see KG's season listed here, I don't think it gets enough credit 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 9:35 PM, Troy Brown said: I was touched to see KG's season listed here, I don't think it gets enough credit It often gets lost in the shuffle. I feel like only true fans really know/remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 9:17 AM, Bullet Club said: KG's 2004 is pretty much god tier basketball and he was already amazing in 2003. T-Mac and Dwight are guys I really enjoyed at their peak but they simply don't compare to these guys. I think (but I'm not positive) that he does two year peak which would really hurt T-Mac. If it's two year peak Dirk's 11 would be surrounded by 10 or 12 and neither of those are ATG seasons. Either way 2011 is better narratively than it is qualitatively. Didnt realize it was 2 years so that makes a ton of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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