ROUND BY ROUND MOCK (round 3 on page 4)

[Rodjahs12]

23 minutes ago, Les Punting said:

The 1st round hype for Cosmi is hard to understand. HIs game tape doesn't say 1st round. He has the high RAS, but we're talking about an offensive lineman. An OT with the worst RAS score in recorded history just got traded for a 1st round pick.  

Whoever ends up with him should be hoping for a guy who can slow down the Shaq Barretts of the world. He's as finesse as they come and he will be made or broke by speed rushers because I don't ever expect him to be great against power.

Edited April 23, 2021 by Rodjahs12

[Joe]

6 minutes ago, squire12 said:

You think moving up around 20 spots in the 2nd round would cost 62, a 5th and future 6th?

 

19 minutes ago, R T said:

Say Whaaaat!

We discuss this every year: pick value is often overrated. Personally, I'd expect to give up just a 4th(probably 135 in this case) and the 2nd. Frankly, I'd rather give up my 2nd and 3rd and pick up a 4th. Examples from this year's draft: Dallas for 44 and 138, Las Vegas for 48 and 121, New England for 46 and 139, or Jax for 45 and 130. Need to throw in extra picks? Ok, try these on for size: 62, 92, and 173 to Denver for 40 and 114; 62, 92, and 173 to NYG for 42 and 116; 62, 92, and 135 to NYJ for 34 and 106 or to Philly for 37 and 123.

[packfanfb]

42 minutes ago, Les Punting said:

The 1st round hype for Cosmi is hard to understand. HIs game tape doesn't say 1st round. He has the high RAS, but we're talking about an offensive lineman. An OT with the worst RAS score in recorded history just got traded for a 1st round pick.  

I've stated this before but Cosmi is this year's Ezra Cleveland. A lot of hype that Cleveland was going in the first after his workouts last spring, then he ended up going in the back end of the 2nd to Minny. Cosmi could be on the same path.

[Joe]

1 minute ago, packfanfb said:

I've stated this before but Cosmi is this year's Ezra Cleveland. A lot of hype that Cleveland was going in the first after his workouts last spring, then he ended up going in the back end of the 2nd to Minny. Cosmi could be on the same path.

Co-signed and a great comparison as well. He did what he needed to do on his pro day and he looks the part but the cons of him are cause for concern. I don't know what to think of him.

[squire12]

9 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

We discuss this every year: pick value is often overrated. Personally, I'd expect to give up just a 4th(probably 135 in this case) and the 2nd. Frankly, I'd rather give up my 2nd and 3rd and pick up a 4th. Examples from this year's draft: Dallas for 44 and 138, Las Vegas for 48 and 121, New England for 46 and 139, or Jax for 45 and 130.

Cosmi went in the 30s.  Radunz went to Detroit at 41.  

9 minutes ago, Joe said:

 

Need to throw in extra picks? Ok, try these on for size: 62, 92, and 173 to Denver for 40 and 114; 62, 92, and 173 to NYG for 42 and 116; 62, 92, and 135 to NYJ for 34 and 106 or to Philly for 37 and 123.

Possible

[squire12]

2020

Pick 59 and 101 for pick 48

2019

Pick 47 and 77 for pick 37

Pick 52, 125 and 182 for pick 42

Pick 56 and 101 for pick 45

Pick 62, 202 and 2020 2nd for pick 48 and 116

2018

Pick 57 and 89 for pick 41

Pick 51 and 117 for pick 43

Pick 59 and 74 for pick 44 and 142

 

[Packerraymond]

Newsome would be a dream scenario if he fell. Top 20 player in this class no doubt.

[R T]

1 hour ago, squire12 said:

2020

Pick 59 and 101 for pick 48

2019

Pick 47 and 77 for pick 37

Pick 52, 125 and 182 for pick 42

Pick 56 and 101 for pick 45

Pick 62, 202 and 2020 2nd for pick 48 and 116

2018

Pick 57 and 89 for pick 41

Pick 51 and 117 for pick 43

Pick 59 and 74 for pick 44 and 142

 

Now why you gotta go bringing facts into this, I was just about to swing a deal with the Cowboys for the 10th overall pick for the Packers 29th overall and 2 pounds of fresh cheese curds. 

[squire12]

 

2020

Pick 59 and 101 (406 points)    for   pick 48 (420 points)   4% difference

2019

Pick 47 and 77  (635 points)    for pick 37 (530 points)   17 % difference in favor of the team trading down

Pick 52, 125 and 182  (444 points)   for pick 42 (480 points)      7.5% difference

Pick 56 and 101 (436 points)    for pick 45   (450 points)    3% difference

Pick 62, 202  (293 points) and 2020 2nd     for pick 48 and 116   (482 points)          Depends on the value placed on the future 2nd.   lets say it is 50% of the middle 2nd... 210    4% difference

2018

Pick 57 and 89  (475 points)  for      pick 41   (490 points)     3% difference 

Pick 51 and 117   (450 points) for       pick 43  (470 points)   4% difference

Pick 59 and 74     (530 points) for       pick 44 and 142    (495 points)    6.5% difference

 

Summary:  these trades are within 10% on a trade chart.  (granted the trade chart valuations will vary)

2 hours ago, Joe said:

 

We discuss this every year: pick value is often overrated. Personally, I'd expect to give up just a 4th(probably 135 in this case) and the 2nd. Frankly, I'd rather give up my 2nd and 3rd and pick up a 4th. Examples from this year's draft: Dallas for 44 and 138, Las Vegas for 48 and 121, New England for 46 and 139, or Jax for 45 and 130.

your trade offers ( the value  of picks you are getting in the 44 to 48 range are 460 to 420, so getting the 4th back is likely not happening)

pick 62 and 92 (416 points)    for   DAL 44 and 138  (497 points)    16% in GB favor

pick 62 and 92 (416 points)    for   LV 48 and 121  (472 points)   12% in GB favor

pick 62 and 92 (416 points)  for    NE 46 and 139 (476.5 points)    12% in GB favor

pick 62 and 92 (416 points)   for    Jax for 45 and 130  (492 points)        15% in GB favor

2 hours ago, Joe said:

Need to throw in extra picks? Ok, try these on for size: 62, 92, and 173 to Denver for 40 and 114; 62, 92, and 173 to NYG for 42 and 116; 62, 92, and 135 to NYJ for 34 and 106 or to Philly for 37 and 123.

62, 92, and 173 (436 points)    for     Denver for 40 and 114   (566 points)      23% in GB favor

62, 92, and 173  (436 points)      for       NYG for 42 and 116   (542 points)         20% in GB favor

62, 92, and 135   (455 points)      for     NYJ for 34 and 106   (640 points)           29% in GB favor 

62, 92, and 135   (455 points)   for   Philly for 37 and 123   (579 points)             22% in GB favor

 

Summary:  difference is between 12 and 29% in favor of GB, the team trading up.  which historically in the last 3 years in the 2nd round has not happened in that magnitude of a difference in trade chart value

 

43 minutes ago, R T said:

Now why you gotta go bringing facts into this, I was just about to swing a deal with the Cowboys for the 10th overall pick for the Packers 29th overall and 2 pounds of fresh cheese curds. 

sorry, I could not resist

[squire12]

Moving on to round 2.  Not going to post the full list of players that have been drafted.   Here is a sample of some player that are on the board.  

I went with DT Daviyon Nixon in round 1.   I like the 3 CB ini Robinson, Joseph and Adebo.   Went with Adebo as a boundary CB that ticks the GB metrics for position

 

RD 2 options

Michael Carter
Amon Ra St Brown
Tylan Wallace
Trey Smith
Quinn Meinerz
Jay Tufele
Alim McNeill
Baron Browning
Aaron Robinson
Kelvin Joseph
Paulson Adebo

[Rodjahs12]

58 minutes ago, squire12 said:

Moving on to round 2.  Not going to post the full list of players that have been drafted.   Here is a sample of some player that are on the board.  

I went with DT Daviyon Nixon in round 1.   I like the 3 CB ini Robinson, Joseph and Adebo.   Went with Adebo as a boundary CB that ticks the GB metrics for position

 

RD 2 options

Michael Carter
Amon Ra St Brown
Tylan Wallace
Trey Smith
Quinn Meinerz
Jay Tufele
Alim McNeill
Baron Browning
Aaron Robinson
Kelvin Joseph
Paulson Adebo

Tylan Wallace for me 

[packfanfb]

9 hours ago, squire12 said:

RD 2 options

Michael Carter
Amon Ra St Brown
Tylan Wallace
Trey Smith
Quinn Meinerz
Jay Tufele
Alim McNeill
Baron Browning
Aaron Robinson
Kelvin Joseph
Paulson Adebo

Like Tylan Wallace here. Adebo would be fine. Sleeper 2nd round steal is Aaron Robinson. May end up being the best slot CB in the draft IMO.

Edited April 24, 2021 by packfanfb

[pacman5252]

I’ll be the contrarian and say Jayson Oweh would be the pick at 29.  Based on history  we know Gute doesn’t completely focus on year 1 needs, loves freaks, and cares about positional value. P Smith is gone in a year (potentially Z). Throw in our new DC likes rolling with 4 man fronts, I see a lot more 3rd down 3-4 pass rusher fronts.

People will shred this because it doesn’t fill a need, but from a long term perspective I like having freaky potential rushers in the building, especially over guys who project as 2nd corners.

[ThatJerkDave]

12 hours ago, squire12 said:

Moving on to round 2.  Not going to post the full list of players that have been drafted.   Here is a sample of some player that are on the board.  

I went with DT Daviyon Nixon in round 1.   I like the 3 CB ini Robinson, Joseph and Adebo.   Went with Adebo as a boundary CB that ticks the GB metrics for position

 

RD 2 options

Michael Carter
Amon Ra St Brown
Tylan Wallace
Trey Smith
Quinn Meinerz
Jay Tufele
Alim McNeill
Baron Browning
Aaron Robinson
Kelvin Joseph
Paulson Adebo

I took Cosmi in round 1, I am taking Meinerz in round 2.  These picks solidify the line this season, and give Love a strong front for when he takes over in a season or two.

[Packerraymond]

Nixon over Newsome??? That's crazy.