ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 First round comparison. Correlation values TCMD = 63.01% FFMD = 71.82% Q&P = 73.82% Player Info irl Draft TCMD FFMD Q&P Trevor Lawrence - QB - Clemson 1 1 1 1 Zach Wilson - QB - BYU 2 3 2 2 Trey Lance - QB - North Dakota State 3 8 4 4 Kyle Pitts - TE - Florida 4 7 6 6 Ja'Marr Chase - WR - LSU 5 5 5 5 Jaylen Waddle - WR - Alabama 6 16 10 10 Penei Sewell - T - Oregon 7 2 7 7 Jaycee Horn - CB - South Carolina 8 19 13 12 Patrick Surtain II - CB - Alabama 9 10 8 9 DeVonta Smith - WR - Alabama 10 6 9 8 Justin Fields - QB - Ohio State 11 4 3 3 Micah Parsons - OLB - Penn State 12 9 12 11 Rashawn Slater - G - Northwestern 13 15 14 14 Alijah Vera-Tucker - G - USC 14 11 15 20 Mac Jones - QB - Alabama 15 31 11 15 Zaven Collins - OLB - Tulsa 16 29 28 31 Alex Leatherwood - T - Alabama 17 33 38 45 Jaelan Phillips - DE - Miami-Fl 18 23 19 13 Jamin Davis - ILB - Kentucky 19 106 37 40 Kadarius Toney - WR - Florida 20 38 49 34 Kwity Paye - DE - Michigan 21 17 21 18 Caleb Farley - CB - Virginia Tech 22 13 18 16 Christian Darrisaw - T - Virginia Tech 23 14 16 19 Najee Harris - RB - Alabama 24 24 30 28 Travis Etienne - RB - Clemson 25 41 24 49 Greg Newsome - CB - Northwestern 26 70 22 23 Rashod Bateman - WR - Minnesota 27 34 26 22 Payton Turner - DE - Houston 28 99 90 79 Eric Stokes - CB - Georgia 29 65 35 37 Gregory Rousseau - DE - Miami-Fl 30 12 23 30 Jayson Oweh - DE - Penn State 31 50 36 26 Joe Tryon - OLB - Washington 32 53 67 56 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 @carrolljcmc and I nailing the Eagles trading up with the Cowboys for a Bama WR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 4 hours ago, ny92mike said: Sorry guys had planned on being around for the first round but got an invite to watch the draft with a couple good friends. First Round As you guys know that I really was hoping the Giants would have drafted AVT or Slater as I viewed the IOL as the teams biggest need. We had our choice of either at 11 but traded down and the rest is history. Kadarius Toney wasn't a bad pick just a position that I felt we could have addressed in the later rounds. Next year's draft should be fun with two first rounders will be fun. Little heartbroken we didn't just sit tight and draft one of these guards. 1st Rnd - Pick 1 | Overall: 1 | JAC selects Trevor Lawrence - QB 1st Rnd - Pick 2 | Overall: 2 | NYJ selects Zach Wilson - QB 1st Rnd - Pick 3 | Overall: 3 | SF selects Trey Lance - QB 1st Rnd - Pick 4 | Overall: 4 | ATL selects Kyle Pitts - TE 1st Rnd - Pick 5 | Overall: 5 | CIN selects Ja'Marr Chase - WR 1st Rnd - Pick 6 | Overall: 6 | MIA selects Jaylen Waddle - WR 1st Rnd - Pick 7 | Overall: 7 | DET selects Penei Sewell - T 1st Rnd - Pick 8 | Overall: 8 | CAR selects Jaycee Horn - CB 1st Rnd - Pick 9 | Overall: 9 | DEN selects Patrick Surtain II - CB 1st Rnd - Pick 10 | Overall: 10 | PHI selects DeVonta Smith - WR 1st Rnd - Pick 11 | Overall: 11 | CHI selects Justin Fields - QB 1st Rnd - Pick 12 | Overall: 12 | DAL selects Micah Parsons - OLB 1st Rnd - Pick 13 | Overall: 13 | LAC selects Rashawn Slater - G 1st Rnd - Pick 14 | Overall: 14 | NYJ selects Alijah Vera-Tucker - G 1st Rnd - Pick 15 | Overall: 15 | NE selects Mac Jones - QB 1st Rnd - Pick 16 | Overall: 16 | ARI selects Zaven Collins - OLB 1st Rnd - Pick 17 | Overall: 17 | LVR selects Alex Leatherwood - T 1st Rnd - Pick 18 | Overall: 18 | MIA selects Jaelan Phillips - DE 1st Rnd - Pick 19 | Overall: 19 | WAS selects Jamin Davis - ILB 1st Rnd - Pick 20 | Overall: 20 | NYG selects Kadarius Toney - WR 1st Rnd - Pick 21 | Overall: 21 | IND selects Kwity Paye - DE 1st Rnd - Pick 22 | Overall: 22 | TEN selects Caleb Farley - CB 1st Rnd - Pick 23 | Overall: 23 | MIN selects Christian Darrisaw - T 1st Rnd - Pick 24 | Overall: 24 | PIT selects Najee Harris - RB 1st Rnd - Pick 25 | Overall: 25 | JAC selects Travis Etienne - RB 1st Rnd - Pick 26 | Overall: 26 | CLE selects Greg Newsome - CB 1st Rnd - Pick 27 | Overall: 27 | BAL selects Rashod Bateman - WR 1st Rnd - Pick 28 | Overall: 28 | NO selects Payton Turner - DE 1st Rnd - Pick 29 | Overall: 29 | GB selects Eric Stokes - CB 1st Rnd - Pick 30 | Overall: 30 | BUF selects Gregory Rousseau - DE 1st Rnd - Pick 31 | Overall: 31 | BAL selects Jayson Oweh - DE 1st Rnd - Pick 32 | Overall: 32 | TB selects Joe Tryon - OLB With the first round out of the way, there is still a ton of talent on the board. Who are your top prospects still on the board? Little surprised that so many of the edge rushers dropped in the late round so I'm hoping that the Giants can still find a way to land one with this second pick. Perhaps Azeez or Basham. @EaglesPeteC How did you feel about the trade up with Dallas? I loved it a small move up. I was always hoping they got one of Surtain, Horn, Waddle, Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 @ny92mike I was a bit surprised how the Giants handled that too. Like you said, the extra 1st should be fun anyways. I enjoy that I actually drafted Kwity Paye in the FFMD mock. Once the draft hit about pick 17/18 I posted to some other guys that the closer we got the more I was kind of enjoying the idea of drafting Paye. I love the kid and his story. That said, when Darrisaw slid right to 21 I thought that was where we would go. But I'm fine with it. As I said before, my ideal scenario was a trade back and then move back up if necessary to grab Liam Eichenberg. If we find a way to grab Eich, Radunz, Cosmi, or even Jenkins/Mayfield tonight I will be extremely pleased. Fingers crossed!!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 In TCMD, I had Vikings taken Darrisaw without a trade (Vera Tucker was off the board). Saints took Ronnie Perkins before I found out about his potential character. Right position but bad prospect. darn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, RTTRUTH said: @ny92mike I was a bit surprised how the Giants handled that too. Like you said, the extra 1st should be fun anyways. I enjoy that I actually drafted Kwity Paye in the FFMD mock. Once the draft hit about pick 17/18 I posted to some other guys that the closer we got the more I was kind of enjoying the idea of drafting Paye. I love the kid and his story. That said, when Darrisaw slid right to 21 I thought that was where we would go. But I'm fine with it. As I said before, my ideal scenario was a trade back and then move back up if necessary to grab Liam Eichenberg. If we find a way to grab Eich, Radunz, Cosmi, or even Jenkins/Mayfield tonight I will be extremely pleased. Fingers crossed!!... Yeah there is still some solid talent at tackle in these upcoming rounds wish I could say the same about guard. For me its a big drop off which is why I was hoping the team would have picked one in the first. With two first next year the giants will be able to draft a QB after jones is snapped in half...lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 Which first round picks surprised you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 hours ago, EaglesPeteC said: I loved it a small move up. I was always hoping they got one of Surtain, Horn, Waddle, Smith Both horn and sustain being taken right in front of dallas had to hurt them. Looking in their sub forum they really wasn't happy with getting Parsons at 12 which is in the range I valued him at. Giants made out in that trade down but at what cost? If Smith was our pick I'm glad they did trade down. Nothing against Smith just didn't see receiver as a first round need as I really hoped for IOL. Toney at 20 I'm fine with but the talent at guard is looking pretty weak right now. Hope the team has a plan B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, ny92mike said: Which first round picks surprised you? Alex Leatherwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Alex Leatherwood Right I think we all did pretty well with the top 15 picks but after that players were coming off the board that I didn't expect to see this early. The run on edge late in the first hurts because I was hoping that position list would be a bit deeper in the second round. All of them based on our mocks were projected 2nd rounders and some how squeaked into the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 Just updated the 2nd and 3rd round draft order in the doc. 2nd Rnd - Pick 1 | Overall: 33 | Jacksonville Jaguars 2nd Rnd - Pick 2 | Overall: 34 | New York Jets 2nd Rnd - Pick 3 | Overall: 35 | Atlanta Falcons 2nd Rnd - Pick 4 | Overall: 36 | Miami Dolphins 2nd Rnd - Pick 5 | Overall: 37 | Philadelphia Eagles 2nd Rnd - Pick 6 | Overall: 38 | Cincinnati Bengals 2nd Rnd - Pick 7 | Overall: 39 | Carolina Panthers 2nd Rnd - Pick 8 | Overall: 40 | Denver Broncos 2nd Rnd - Pick 9 | Overall: 41 | Detroit Lions 2nd Rnd - Pick 10 | Overall: 42 | New York Giants 2nd Rnd - Pick 11 | Overall: 43 | San Francisco 49ers 2nd Rnd - Pick 12 | Overall: 44 | Dallas Cowboys 2nd Rnd - Pick 13 | Overall: 45 | Jacksonville Jaguars 2nd Rnd - Pick 14 | Overall: 46 | New England Patriots 2nd Rnd - Pick 15 | Overall: 47 | Los Angeles Chargers 2nd Rnd - Pick 16 | Overall: 48 | Las Vegas Raiders 2nd Rnd - Pick 17 | Overall: 49 | Arizona Cardinals 2nd Rnd - Pick 18 | Overall: 50 | Miami Dolphins 2nd Rnd - Pick 19 | Overall: 51 | Washington Football Team 2nd Rnd - Pick 20 | Overall: 52 | Chicago Bears 2nd Rnd - Pick 21 | Overall: 53 | Tennessee Titans 2nd Rnd - Pick 22 | Overall: 54 | Indianapolis Colts 2nd Rnd - Pick 23 | Overall: 55 | Pittsburgh Steelers 2nd Rnd - Pick 24 | Overall: 56 | Seattle Seahawks 2nd Rnd - Pick 25 | Overall: 57 | Los Angeles Rams 2nd Rnd - Pick 26 | Overall: 58 | Kansas City Chiefs 2nd Rnd - Pick 27 | Overall: 59 | Cleveland Browns 2nd Rnd - Pick 28 | Overall: 60 | New Orleans Saints 2nd Rnd - Pick 29 | Overall: 61 | Buffalo Bills 2nd Rnd - Pick 30 | Overall: 62 | Green Bay Packers 2nd Rnd - Pick 31 | Overall: 63 | Kansas City Chiefs 2nd Rnd - Pick 32 | Overall: 64 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3rd Rnd - Pick 1 | Overall: 65 | Jacksonville Jaguars 3rd Rnd - Pick 2 | Overall: 66 | Minnesota Vikings 3rd Rnd - Pick 3 | Overall: 67 | Houston Texans 3rd Rnd - Pick 4 | Overall: 68 | Atlanta Falcons 3rd Rnd - Pick 5 | Overall: 69 | Cincinnati Bengals 3rd Rnd - Pick 6 | Overall: 70 | Philadelphia Eagles 3rd Rnd - Pick 7 | Overall: 71 | Denver Broncos 3rd Rnd - Pick 8 | Overall: 72 | Detroit Lions 3rd Rnd - Pick 9 | Overall: 73 | Carolina Panthers 3rd Rnd - Pick 10 | Overall: 74 | Washington Football Team 3rd Rnd - Pick 11 | Overall: 75 | Dallas Cowboys 3rd Rnd - Pick 12 | Overall: 76 | New York Giants 3rd Rnd - Pick 13 | Overall: 77 | Los Angeles Chargers 3rd Rnd - Pick 14 | Overall: 78 | Minnesota Vikings 3rd Rnd - Pick 15 | Overall: 79 | Las Vegas Raiders 3rd Rnd - Pick 16 | Overall: 80 | Las Vegas Raiders 3rd Rnd - Pick 17 | Overall: 81 | Miami Dolphins 3rd Rnd - Pick 18 | Overall: 82 | Washington Football Team 3rd Rnd - Pick 19 | Overall: 83 | Chicago Bears 3rd Rnd - Pick 20 | Overall: 84 | Dallas Cowboys 3rd Rnd - Pick 21 | Overall: 85 | Tennessee Titans 3rd Rnd - Pick 22 | Overall: 86 | Minnesota Vikings 3rd Rnd - Pick 23 | Overall: 87 | Pittsburgh Steelers 3rd Rnd - Pick 24 | Overall: 88 | Los Angeles Rams 3rd Rnd - Pick 25 | Overall: 89 | Cleveland Browns 3rd Rnd - Pick 26 | Overall: 90 | Minnesota Vikings 3rd Rnd - Pick 27 | Overall: 91 | Cleveland Browns 3rd Rnd - Pick 28 | Overall: 92 | Green Bay Packers 3rd Rnd - Pick 29 | Overall: 93 | Buffalo Bills 3rd Rnd - Pick 30 | Overall: 94 | Baltimore Ravens 3rd Rnd - Pick 31 | Overall: 95 | Tampa Bay Buccaneers 3rd Rnd - Pick 32 | Overall: 96 | New England Patriots 3rd Rnd - Pick 33 | Overall: 97 | Los Angeles Chargers 3rd Rnd - Pick 34 | Overall: 98 | New Orleans Saints 3rd Rnd - Pick 35 | Overall: 99 | Dallas Cowboys 3rd Rnd - Pick 36 | Overall: 100 | Tennessee Titans 3rd Rnd - Pick 37 | Overall: 101 | Detroit Lions 3rd Rnd - Pick 38 | Overall: 102 | San Francisco 49ers 3rd Rnd - Pick 39 | Overall: 103 | Los Angeles Rams 3rd Rnd - Pick 40 | Overall: 104 | Baltimore Ravens 3rd Rnd - Pick 41 | Overall: 105 | New Orleans Saints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ny92mike Posted April 30, 2021 Author Share Posted April 30, 2021 @squire12 / @whodatOL / @KingOfNewYork You guys selected Zaven Collins - OLB - Tulsa at the bottom of the first round in our mocks but he went 16th overall to the Cards. Would you have considered this a reach or did we undervalue this talent? @pwny / @Johnny Nix / @LinderFournette You guys selected Alex Leatherwood - T - Alabama in the early second round of these mocks. I think most didn't expect to see him come off the board in the middle of the first, 17th overall to the Raiders. Did we all miss something with this guy? @bcb1213 / @cortes02 / @BowserBroncos Jamin Davis - ILB - Kentucky mocked 106th in tcmd and has rapidly climbed the draft boards but never reaching the first round, would you guys consider him a reach with WAS drafting him 19th overall or was he overlooked by many of us mockers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 1 minute ago, ny92mike said: @squire12 / @whodatOL / @KingOfNewYork You guys selected Zaven Collins - OLB - Tulsa at the bottom of the first round in our mocks but he went 16th overall to the Cards. Would you have considered this a reach or did we undervalue this talent? @pwny / @Johnny Nix / @LinderFournette You guys selected Alex Leatherwood - T - Alabama in the early second round of these mocks. I think most didn't expect to see him come off the board in the middle of the first, 17th overall to the Raiders. Did we all miss something with this guy? @bcb1213 / @cortes02 / @BowserBroncos Jamin Davis - ILB - Kentucky mocked 106th in tcmd and has rapidly climbed the draft boards but never reaching the first round, would you guys consider him a reach with WAS drafting him 19th overall or was he overlooked by many of us mockers? I took him at 45 cuz he was bpa but keep in mind ot class was deep and people tend to go for sexy picks then linemen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcb1213 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, ny92mike said: @squire12 / @whodatOL / @KingOfNewYork You guys selected Zaven Collins - OLB - Tulsa at the bottom of the first round in our mocks but he went 16th overall to the Cards. Would you have considered this a reach or did we undervalue this talent? @pwny / @Johnny Nix / @LinderFournette You guys selected Alex Leatherwood - T - Alabama in the early second round of these mocks. I think most didn't expect to see him come off the board in the middle of the first, 17th overall to the Raiders. Did we all miss something with this guy? @bcb1213 / @cortes02 / @BowserBroncos Jamin Davis - ILB - Kentucky mocked 106th in tcmd and has rapidly climbed the draft boards but never reaching the first round, would you guys consider him a reach with WAS drafting him 19th overall or was he overlooked by many of us mockers? I believe I said I couldnt believe he was available when we picked as I had heard first round buzz on him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Alex Leatherwood has line versatility and has great length in his arms. I bet he ends up being a solid player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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