SSG Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Rodgers could have said .. hey guys, I'll rework my deal or whatever it that helps keep Linsley on board. In the end he did nothing and held the Packers back from signing more free agents. What a team guy that #12 is. I'm not sure how many people around here would be willing to take massive paycuts for the better of their employer but you are 100% correct. Rodgers could have offered to cut his salary by 2/3s in the hopes the team attacked free agency in an entirely different manner than they way they attacked if for the vast majority of his career. Given Green Bay's history in free agency any such trust would have been completely foolish though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackFan13 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: When did you last give money to your bosses so someone else could stay at your company. Seriously! Also not good to do for the players union, the last thing they want is guys taking LESS money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, PackFan13 said: Schefter admitting Rodgers didn't want this out and he said he randomly decided to leak this on draft day. You jilted lovers sure look stupid now, calling for Rodgers head saying he did it on purpose . I can't wait to go back and read all these dumb comments from the majority of you. This wouldn't be the first incorrect assumption on this subject and it won't be the last. Fans always want to link the disagreement to "insert personal hobby horse here". Too much opinion + too little knowledge = baseless statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: When did you last give money to your bosses so someone else could stay at your company. that's not what a restructure is no players gives up guaranteed money. In fact, they typically get MORE guaranteed money to do it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, incognito_man said: That's the biggest part of the trade-off from Rodgers to Love - building an amazing defense w/ the additional resources saved. But yes, if we fail to build that defense w/ those resources, the FO failed badly. Which, to be blunt, has large been the track record of the front office for a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, SSG said: I'm not sure how many people around here would be willing to take massive paycuts did you read "NFL Contracts 101 - The Basics" that I linked earlier? If not, you should. It might clear up your misunderstanding of what a restructure is since you clearly don't understand that it's not a paycut, much less a "massive" paycut. It's actually a pay increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: They should have called him. That’s it. It wouldn’t have made a difference , but they should’ve called. There's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green19 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 38 minutes ago, incognito_man said: There is also a false notion that Jordan Love needs to be a star for this to be "successful". I wholeheartedly disagree and I'm confident the FO does as well. He doesn't need to be a HOFer or MVP candidate to have an elite offense function through him with this surrounding cast and play-caller. He needs to be better than Jared Goff and this is a Super Bowl team moving forward w/ the assets we'd get for Rodgers departure (both in free agency w/ additional cap and the draft/player capital directly). This isn't a Jordan Love replaces Aaron Rodgers for on-the-field results and job security. This is a Jordan Love + 5/6 players replaces Aaron Rodgers. The media and some casual fans won't recognize that, however - but it's the reality and it's exactly how the Front Office will be judged for their own job security. I keep saying it... for not having Rodgers the 49ers have made it to more Super Bowls during his career than GB. And they had Kap and Jimmy G as QBs. There are multiple ways to win it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Arthur Penske said: Which, to be blunt, has large been the track record of the front office for a decade. Gute hasn't been GM for a decade though, so I don't think that is necessarily relevant (albeit, somewhat true). Gute has a pretty good track record on early defensive picks so far. I'm excited to see more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Green19 said: I keep saying it... for not having Rodgers the 49ers have made it to more Super Bowls during his career than GB. And they had Kap and Jimmy G as QBs. There are multiple ways to win it all. absolutely in fact, arguably the absolute best way is exactly what Gute is doing now. He even has the enormous bonus of having Aaron Rodgers-level asset to parlay into MORE young talent around the young, cheap and hopefully "good" QB. The FO is doing this absolutely perfectly if they can get a king's ransom for Rodgers. Exactly how I would do it in their shoes as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilltray Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Gute hasn't been GM for a decade though, so I don't think that is necessarily relevant (albeit, somewhat true). Gute has a pretty good track record on early defensive picks so far. I'm excited to see more. Not to mention that's with just normal late in the round picks, multiple picks, ammo to move up and when Gute had cap space he spent it pretty damn well in FA on Smith, Smith, and Amos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerstk7 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Chili said: I still don't understand why it was cutting Kumerow was the "straw that broke the camel's back". Why on earth would it!? On the surface it makes zero sense. Why would Rodgers care about some bottom of the roster WR who he barely throws to anyway. He certainly didn't throw much to Kumerow when he was on the active roster the season before. For me it would be the cutting of Jordy Nelson that would be the straw that broke the camel’s back. That's when Rodgers should've gotten angry. So...what's going on? I mulled over this for a while and now I am coming around to a controversial theory that there has to be more to Rodgers/Kumerow story than it first appears. What if Rodgers is gay and Kumerow was his partner? Gute cutting Kumerow which provoked this reaction from Rodgers would totally begin to make sense. I googled Kumerow and I cannot find any clues that he might be married or is in a relationship with a woman. If Gute disregarded Rodgers feelings by not making a cheap roster exception for Kumerow it might have provoked Rodgers ire and now we're hearing stories that he wants Gute fired as retribution. If it's not money, if it's not surrounding him with talent to win the superbowl - both of which Gute has done very well for Rodgers then what else could it be? The relationship angle is an interesting area we're yet to explore. I've always suspected Munn and Patrick were beards. I suspect Woodley is another beard but this time with an engagement storyline woven in. The one thing all these ladies have in common is they are all celebrities and being in the public eye with one of the most famous person in America certainly helps raise their profile. Woodley's relationship with Rodgers came out of the blue during the off season and all of a sudden they're engaged. This immediately made me very suspicious - where did he even find the time? Rodgers went to Peru with Patrick in March 2020, broke up with her sometime between March-June and then training camp started on July 28th. Rodgers was 100% all in at producing one of the best seasons of his career - this requires serious time commitment and focus. Supposedly Woodley moved in with Rodgers in Oct 2020. How did people in the entertainment business not even notice this? it would be a very difficult thing to hide....unless it's all entirely made up! They've barely been together and he all of a sudden trusts her implicitly by getting engaged and we all know how difficult he is at trusting people. He was with Patrick for 2 years - no engagement, with Munn for 3 years - no engagement. Supposedly lived with Woodley for 4 months - boom! engaged! I don't buy it. I now thinking COVID unexpectedly threw a wretch in Rodgers and Patrick fake relationship and they had to publicly break up to hide it. Rodgers then arranged for another relationship with new bells and whistles which is why his relationship with Woodley suddenly came out of the blue. This is the supposed timeline of the new relationship:https://stylecaster.com/aaron-rodgers-shailene-woodley/ It's well known there are Matchmaking/PR agencies who specialises in creating fake relationships in order to boost people's careers or to hide their sexual preferences. https://metro.co.uk/2019/07/26/hollywood-publicist-exposes-fake-romances-love-contracts-legally-bind-famous-couples-together-least-year-10465755/ Is it starting to make total sense or am I talking out of my arse? Just as a disclaimer, I mean no offence and I literally don't care if Rodgers is gay or not but it is important to find out the truth of this mess. This fallout is something that affects the entire team and fanbase. I'm just trying to understand why this fallout is even happening and too many things don't add up based on what we know about Rodgers and how the Packers operate. Rodgers reaction seems disproportionate especially coming off back to back NFC championship games and it makes me wonder if there is some other hidden reason behind the scenes that is yet to come out. I talked to my cousin who knows Kumerow from Whitewater and she said he’s not gay. Her words were “he has a girlfriend now I think, and he certainly didn’t act gay in college.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSG Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, incognito_man said: did you read "NFL Contracts 101 - The Basics" that I linked earlier? If not, you should. It might clear up your misunderstanding of what a restructure is since you clearly don't understand that it's not a paycut, much less a "massive" paycut. It's actually a pay increase. The idea that only guaranteed money is the only money counted against the cap is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Edited May 6, 2021 by SSG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, OneTwoSixFive said: When did you last give money to your bosses so someone else could stay at your company. But he wants to be like Tom Brady .. Tom takes below market value deals everywhere he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneTwoSixFive Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, {Family Ghost} said: But he wants to be like Tom Brady .. Tom takes below market value deals everywhere he goes. Does he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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