cannondale Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: um...yes? His point is obvious and everyone agrees with it? Why is it obvious ? And why would it change the fact that if you're the QB you want every asset to go into helping you win a Super Bowl ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I think at bare minimum he needs to be a Cousins/Mayfield level QB, it will take an elite D to win with a QB at that caliber. You'd like to set the bar at Matt Ryan, but that might be too high. If you get an elite D, you can potentially lower the floor to old Peyton Manning. Of course, the D needs to be more elite the worse the QB is. Assuming Mahomes is the opponent in most hypothetical matchups (and his OL isn't down a billion starters) I'd say above average for offense overall if your target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, squire12 said: yeah, and some even had trading Rodgers in a mock prior to the 2018 draft Which would have been dumb to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, cannondale said: Why is it obvious ? And why would it change the fact that if you're the QB you want every asset to go into helping you win a Super Bowl ? It's takes a village. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 56 minutes ago, PackFan13 said: Schefter admitting Rodgers didn't want this out and he said he randomly decided to leak this on draft day. You jilted lovers sure look stupid now, calling for Rodgers head saying he did it on purpose . I can't wait to go back and read all these dumb comments from the majority of you. And the fact that you're going from that hook, line, and sinker tells me enough. Let's go through this logically. IF Schefter had been gathering all this during the offseason process, why did he choose to "break" the news a few hours before the draft? The timing of it doesn't make sense unless you're trying to accelerate the trade. The 49ers were picking 3, and as soon as they made their likely QB choice (which turned out to be Trey Lance) they were likely out on Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers (or someone in his camp) leaked it. Rodgers can say he didn't want it to come out, but that's clearly them trying to save face. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, CWood21 said: And the fact that you're going from that hook, line, and sinker tells me enough. Let's go through this logically. IF Schefter had been gathering all this during the offseason process, why did he choose to "break" the news a few hours before the draft? The timing of it doesn't make sense unless you're trying to accelerate the trade. The 49ers were picking 3, and as soon as they made their likely QB choice (which turned out to be Trey Lance) they were likely out on Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers (or someone in his camp) leaked it. Rodgers can say he didn't want it to come out, but that's clearly them trying to save face. This ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Moving to Love in 2021 doesn't seem like a win-now move or a build for the future move. It's sticking Love right in the middle of a transition from win-now to the future. From a team-building perspective, this team is SO all-in on 2021 that' it's kind of crazy. Without Rodgers, that plan is kind of crazy. Moving on from: Adams, Bakh, Rodgers, Marcedes would make a lot of sense. Look at Bakhtiari's contract: YEAR AGE BASE SALARY SIGNING ROSTER WORKOUT RESTRUCTURE CAP HIT DEAD CAP YEARLY CASH 2020 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png 29 $6,052,941 $9,200,000 $375,000 $500,000 - $16,127,941 $64,700,000 $36,956,797($36,956,797) 2021 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png 30 $1,075,000 $6,000,000 $352,941 $700,000 $2,768,000 $10,895,941 $49,147,000 $13,199,941($50,156,738) 2022 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png 31 $3,200,000 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $800,000 $2,768,000 $22,768,000 $39,304,000 $14,000,000($64,156,738) POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 3 YR, $64,156,738; $17,536,000 DEAD CAP 2023 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png 32 $6,700,000 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $800,000 $2,768,000 $26,268,000 $17,536,000 $17,500,000($81,656,738) 2024 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/gb.png 33 $10,700,000 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $800,000 $2,768,000 $30,268,000 $8,768,000 $21,500,000($103,156,738) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Leader said: It's takes a village. You said Rodgers didn't play well enough. I guess I can hold out hope that someday he can play as well as Brady did last year. Or Nick Foles. Or broken down Payton Manning. Or Joe Flacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibrett15 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 If you trade Rodgers, can you also trade Adams and Bakh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, cannondale said: Why is it obvious ? And why would it change the fact that if you're the QB you want every asset to go into helping you win a Super Bowl ? Of course Aaron wants every available non-aaron asset to support his personal ambitions. That's what got is into this mess ha And it's obvious because Aaron playing at the level he was on his contract handicapped the team enough that it wasn't close to a SB. It's obvious he wasn't playing well enough because that's what reality is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Kuhn, Hawk and Jones definitely out here doing damage control. Both sides being played. The villainess stuff coming out in the media, the damage control from ex teammates. The constant hedging makes me believe Rodgers preference is to be elsewhere, but he'll play here before retiring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: Of course Aaron wants every available non-aaron asset to support his personal ambitions. That's what got is into this mess ha And it's obvious because Aaron playing at the level he was on his contract handicapped the team enough that it wasn't close to a SB. It's obvious he wasn't playing well enough because that's what reality is. I stopped reading there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, cannondale said: You said Rodgers didn't play well enough. I guess I can hold out hope that someday he can play as well as Brady did last year. Or Nick Foles. Or broken down Payton Manning. Or Joe Flacco Keyboard problems. Typing a full response is....troublesome. Requires spell-check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, cannondale said: I stopped reading there Ooo so edgy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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