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17 minutes ago, FAH1223 said:

 

Agree, for some of them, even though its voluntary, it could be a bad career move. 

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8 minutes ago, cannondale said:

I was just thinking. If Jordan Love is the starter, and Dak Prescott just signed for 4 years and $160 million .....

David Dunn

are you just pointing out that Dunn is Dad's agent, too? (Along with being Rodgers and Loves?)

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Just now, incognito_man said:

are you just pointing out that Dunn is Dad's agent, too? (Along with being Rodgers and Loves?)

Nahhh. Just being an azz

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10 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

Agree, for some of them, even though its voluntary, it could be a bad career move. 

It's happening all over the NFL.  Players got spoiled by last year and now the NFLPA and NFL are fighting over it.  Brady was imploring all players all over the league to skip the voluntary OTAs.

Sitting out the voluntary stuff for TB12 is nothing new.  

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8 minutes ago, SSG said:

It's happening all over the NFL.  Players got spoiled by last year and now the NFLPA and NFL are fighting over it.  Brady was imploring all players all over the league to skip the voluntary OTAs.

Sitting out the voluntary stuff for TB12 is nothing new.  

Brady would be in favor of more teams skipping OTA's.   Brady went to a new team in 2020, had extremely limited off season work and still won the super bowl.  Other teams having players skip OTA's benefits Brady in the long run toward a season ending in a deep playoff run.

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1 hour ago, fistfullofbeer said:

Ok. Sure. Lets even go by those metrics. But my point is that based on his play over the last few years AND his age, I consider the MVP level play more of an outlier than the norm to set expectations for his next few years in the league. And then there is also his salary to consider.

I think that's a very pessimistic view.  With the team built as-is this is an MVP season by an MVP player. 

It's the best offense since Jordy/Jones/Jennings/Finley/Bulaga/Lang/Sitton/Wells in 2011.

 

His age hasn't led to any noticeable physical decline (outside of his legs/scrambling).

 

Take the career view, and recognize that 2018/2019 were not about his age, but other factors, and expecting any sort of a decline in 2021-2022 due to age is the strange view IMO.  Rodgers is going to age extremely gracefully, like all HOF players before him.  And then he'll get hurt, and it will all fall apart.  But he's not that likely to get hurt.

 

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1 hour ago, SSG said:

I'm not pretending anything. Goff flourished because of the elite talent surrounding him and only that talent.  There is a reason the Rams overpaid for Stafford to rid themselves of the guy.  The moves by the LAR and SF this offseason don't support the idea that an JAG is good enough in this offense to make a team championship contenders.  

Matt Lafleur doesn't have any legit success in this league when he didn't have Aaron Rodgers at QB so it's hard to say what he will or wont do without him.  That's nothing against Lafleur, I think he's a very good coach.  

Sure Rodgers wasn't his typical world beating self in his first year in the offense but the guy still had 25 TDs and only 1 INT which helped that team overachieve.  That wasn't a great team.  It had an underrated defense and an out of the ordinary win rate in close games.  

Is there a team in the NFL that has had sustained success with JAGS at QB?

I'd say that Tannehill is a JAG.  Getting paid 29.5M average in this offense.  I mean he's doing well there, because of the scheme.

Goff was a Jag who went to a Super Bowl in this offense, when his coach was basically using him like an X-box controller.

Rodgers was fine in 2019, but nothing overly special.  Won 13 games.

There will be life after Rodgers, whenever that time comes.

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8 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

I'd say that Tannehill is a JAG.  Getting paid 29.5M average in this offense.  I mean he's doing well there, because of the scheme.

Goff was a Jag who went to a Super Bowl in this offense, when his coach was basically using him like an X-box controller.

Rodgers was fine in 2019, but nothing overly special.  Won 13 games.

There will be life after Rodgers, whenever that time comes.

I hope as this progresses confidence in Love grows to a point where they ship off Rodgers for a huge bounty of players and picks.  I feel reasonably sure that he will be a good QB in this scheme.  

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1 hour ago, FAH1223 said:

 

Lol, the WR's that Rodgers claims are not good enough to play with him are staying home in support of Rodgers. 🤣 

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9 minutes ago, R T said:

Lol, the WR's that Rodgers claims are not good enough to play with him are staying home in support of Rodgers. 🤣 

Staying home is risky. Get hurt? Lose your money.

They should all google Ja'wuan James.

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46 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

I'd say that Tannehill is a JAG.  Getting paid 29.5M average in this offense.  I mean he's doing well there, because of the scheme.

Goff was a Jag who went to a Super Bowl in this offense, when his coach was basically using him like an X-box controller.

Rodgers was fine in 2019, but nothing overly special.  Won 13 games.

There will be life after Rodgers, whenever that time comes.

Goff went to the super Bowl with an all pro RB, an elite line and easily the best group of pass catchers in the league.  Since some of those pieces left he's been the single biggest reason that team hasn't replicated that success. The only reason he made it back to the playoffs again this last year was because of their elite defense.   

Tannehill is probably a notch above a JAG but his inabilities as a passer were probably the biggest reason the Titans got eliminated early.  Henry was shut down and Tannehill was a complete non-factor.  I don't think he's a quality example of a QB capable of getting a team over the hump and he's got a much more dominate rushing attack than GB.  

The teams in the conference championship games were lead by Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers.  That's the GOAT and the first, second and third place finishers in the MVP vote.  

Of course there will be life after Rodgers but I'd bet any amount of money that that isn't happening in 2021.  I'd bet that this team misses the playoffs for 2 or 3 years if 12 ends up getting traded this offseason.  If end up being wrong it's likely because Jordan Love ends up being a super star franchise QB which is entirely possible given his tools.

 

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