Madmike90 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: Like the player, hate watching Pace continue to give away picks. Hope there's a plan for replacing Robinson, Leno, Hicks, Trevathan, Gipson, etc. next season. Next season the cap isn't an issue so we shouldn't be worried about that...especially if Fields starts early and plays well...much easier to get FAs here... Another thing I will say is as much as trading away draft picks is never great as of 2019 30% of all NFL roster were made up of undrafted players...if I see the Bears only making 5 or 6 picks this year and know that they have FAs next offseason you bet I am wanting to go there as an UDFA to give myself the best chance of getting a job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman(DH23) Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 Just now, soulman said: Uh....not gonna happen this year. Dalton is 100% gtd his $10 mil so that's $10 mil dead cap if he's released. $ 7 mil if traded. Foles dead cap would $14.3 mil if released but can be reduced to $5.3 mil if traded. Good luck unloading either unless someone really needs a vet QB. Foles guarantees have been paid, I believe they can release him after June 1 for like $1m. I dont think they are in a hurry to do so, but they certainly could. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topwop1 Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, JAF-N72EX said: Pace still has 4 6th rounders to use to trade up with. I hope if he sees a guy there that he likes then go all in and get him. May as well. If he's gonna swing....swing big. One 5th & three 6ths left now after trading up to take Jenkins ...but yes I know what you mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: You had to know they wanted that 5th back. That's Pace's best round. I might package 2 more 6ths together and get another 5 too. 1. A third to basically move up twice is good(in the 2nd a 6th to the 5th) Plus just the player we got was worth it. 2. To your point I would trade a bunch of those 6ths haha.....the Bears arent one of those teams that just need players. We need quality, we have a ton of those 6th rd/practice squad guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sugashane Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 So Pace has made the perfect draft imo so far. These are the two guys I wish we could have gotten. Jenkins is a bad bad man. He will bring the toughness we got with Long. Pace is making me eat my words and I LOVE it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, soulman said: Uh....not gonna happen this year. Dalton is 100% gtd his $10 mil so that's $10 mil dead cap if he's released. $ 7 mil if traded. Foles dead cap would $14.3 mil if released but can be reduced to $5.3 mil if traded. Good luck unloading either unless someone really needs a vet QB. Haha....I meant next year, I actually think we see alot Dalton this year.....his job is to be Alex Smith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: They arent planning on replacing Robinson, they just drafted Leno's replacement. Hicks replacement is already on the roster and likely to be extended this offseason. They have proven they can throw any replacement level safety next to E-Jax and get decent production. Trevathan is not particularly difficult to replace at this point. Not sure what the debbie downer stuff is here. Hopefully getting Fields motivates Robinson enough to be willing to sit down again and work out an extension. This would save money this year and keep him long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Foles guarantees have been paid, I believe they can release him after June 1 for like $1m. I dont think they are in a hurry to do so, but they certainly could. Im no contract guy but if this is true this would be PERFECT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Superman(DH23) said: Foles guarantees have been paid, I believe they can release him after June 1 for like $1m. I dont think they are in a hurry to do so, but they certainly could. Not according to this. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/nick-foles-9898/ I count only $12 mil and change paid out of the $21 mil guaranteed. His 2021 salary is guaranteed along with $1 mil of his 2022 salary and a $ 4 mil roster bonus. He's gonna be the best paid rookie's big brother and bench coach in the NFL. LOL Current Contract Nick Foles signed a 3 year, $24,000,000 contract with the Chicago Bears, including a $8,000,000 signing bonus, $21,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $8,000,000. In 2021, Foles will earn a base salary of $4,000,000, while carrying a cap hit of $6,666,666 and a dead cap value of $14,333,334. Contract Terms: 3 yr(s) / $24,000,000 Signing Bonus $8,000,000 Average Salary$8,000,000 GTD at Sign:$17,000,000 Total GTD:$21,000,000 Free Agent:2023 / UFA Bonus Breakdown Cap Details Cash Details Year Age Base Salary Signing Roster Cap Hit Dead Cap Yearly Cash 2020 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/chi.png 31 $4,000,000 $2,666,666 - $6,666,666 $17,000,000 $12,011,711($12,011,711) 2021 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/chi.png 32 $4,000,000 $2,666,666 - $6,666,666 $14,333,334 $4,000,000($16,011,711) Potential Out: 2022, 2 yr, $16,011,711; $7,666,667 dead cap 2022 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/chi.png 33 $4,000,000 $2,666,667 $4,000,000 $10,666,667 $7,666,667 $8,000,000($24,011,711) 2023 http://d1dglpr230r57l.cloudfront.net/images/thumb/chi.png 34 UFA Contract Notes: $22M guaranteed (signing bonus + 2020 salary + 2021 salary + $1M of 2022 salary, 2022 roster bonus) 2022 Roster Bonus: $4M (paid the 5th league day of 2022, guaranteed now) Annual $6M of Incentives/Escalators QB Rating (not cumulative, min. 224 attempts) 95%: $500,000 98.5%: $1M 102%: $2M Playing Time (not cumulative) 50%: $500,000 65%: $750,000 80%: $1.5M 50% Playing Time + Playoffs: $500,000 or 50% Playing Time + Playoff Win (50% snaps): $1M Pro Bowl: $750,000 NFL MVP or Super Bowl MVP: $750,000 Any incentive earned will also escalate the following year's base salary An unknown incentive threshold gives Foles the option to void the deal after each of 2020 & 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 All but 1M of his gtd money is already paid since he got his 5M roster bonus last month. They could release him before June and it would only cost 3.7M. https://overthecap.com/player/nick-foles/773/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sugashane said: So Pace has made the perfect draft imo so far. These are the two guys I wish we could have gotten. Jenkins is a bad bad man. He will bring the toughness we got with Long. Pace is making me eat my words and I LOVE it. I'd posted before that saving his job is as much as anything based on the success of this draft and so far he's rated as having an A+/1st and an A/2nd. That's a pretty good start and finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I just love that this draft makes so much sense. -Aggressive move for a QB -Grab a day 1 starter at RT who falls That is just good football sense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 I am just imaging Teven and Daniels double teaming as our 6’3” 230lbs QB pulls the ball and takes off with his 4.4 speed on zone read. It is magnificent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted May 1, 2021 Share Posted May 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, abstract_thought said: Like the player, hate watching Pace continue to give away picks. Hope there's a plan for replacing Robinson, Leno, Hicks, Trevathan, Gipson, etc. next season. 1. Robinson just wants to get paid, we ageeting ready to have both QB's off the books and probably sign a vet minimum type guy(next year obviously) 2. Leno is already replaced, Jenkins will play RT this year but easily could move to LT, and we have a ton of those late round guys who can play RT. 3. Not sure what you mean about Hicks, I think we pay him but we have Nichols anyway who played his role the full year and with Goldman coming back...yikes! 4. Trevathan and Gipson are just vet free agents, haha.....I dont know if we need a plan for those guys necessarily .....like are you thinking we arent getting any players with those 4 6th rounders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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