Sad People Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 34 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: But we got Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth. Twos better than one. And its hard to gauge given Cine is out for the year. In a vacuum yeah we should taken Hamilton, we wont know who actually won the trade for a few years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, mattyice0401 said: And its hard to gauge given Cine is out for the year. In a vacuum yeah we should taken Hamilton, we wont know who actually won the trade for a few years. That’s the problem and the same philosophy Spielman seemed to employ. Regardless of circumstance, we’ve not had an immediate day one impact first round pick in ages outside of Jefferson. Our first round pick success rate from 2015 until 2022 has to be near the bottom of the league. We found a top 3 WR and a mediocre Center that’s about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: That’s the problem and the same philosophy Spielman seemed to employ. Regardless of circumstance, we’ve not had an immediate day one impact first round pick in ages outside of Jefferson. Our first round pick success rate from 2015 until 2022 has to be near the bottom of the league. We found a top 3 WR and a mediocre Center that’s about it. Did you forget about the starting LT? Edited November 22, 2022 by swede700 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, swede700 said: Did you forget about the starting LT? Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 39 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: That’s the problem and the same philosophy Spielman seemed to employ. Regardless of circumstance, we’ve not had an immediate day one impact first round pick in ages outside of Jefferson. Our first round pick success rate from 2015 until 2022 has to be near the bottom of the league. We found a top 3 WR and a mediocre Center that’s about it. Christian Darrisaw has entered the chat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 While the picks of Waynes, Hughes and Treadwell didn't pan out, they weren't the reason Spielman ended up getting fired. It was the inability to get any real starters out of the mid-rounds on down. In 2015, he got Kendricks, Hunter and Diggs from the 2nd on down. But since then, all he had to show for it was Dalvin, O'Neill, Ezra and Dantzler. He got some depth/ST players (Wonnum, Boyd, Osborn, Conklin), but there wasn't enough other draftees that developed into anything. That's what cost him his job, in the end. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, swede700 said: While the picks of Waynes, Hughes and Treadwell didn't pan out, they weren't the reason Spielman ended up getting fired. It was the inability to get any real starters out of the mid-rounds on down. In 2015, he got Kendricks, Hunter and Diggs from the 2nd on down. But since then, all he had to show for it was Dalvin, O'Neill, Ezra and Dantzler. He got some depth/ST players (Wonnum, Boyd, Osborn, Conklin), but there wasn't enough other draftees that developed into anything. That's what cost him his job, in the end. Let’s not forget the wasted first round pick on Sam Bradford. Think it just got really stale in the end, but usually you don’t get to be part of a front office that spends three first round picks on QBs and still survives without winning any meaningful games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 I don’t believe Spielman was fired for his personnel decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 It’s been reported that former Giants All-Pro wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. will make a decision on his 2022 team after Thursday’s game. The Cowboys and Giants are two of the five teams Beckham is reportedly considering signing with along with Kansas City, Buffalo and San Francisco. Adam Schefter: From team owner and general manager Jerry Jones to players such as Micah Parsons, the Cowboys have been almost openly universal in campaigning for Beckham to come to Dallas. It will take about $5 million to lure Beckham in for the last quarter of the season. https://giantswire.usatoday.com/lists/new-york-giants-dallas-cowboys-5-things-know-about-week-12/?utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=trueanthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2KzXWj6f4NE0IQtlxUMb_YSHn_-OI5zbdkhiRYQCxdcI7FJ9WSBgMsq0U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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vike daddy Posted November 26, 2022 Share Posted November 26, 2022 The Cowboys’ Thanksgiving Day game, which kicks off at 4:30 p.m. ET, annually draws the most television viewers for a regular-season game. They did it again Thursday in record fashion. The Cowboys’ 28-20 victory over the Giants drew 42 million viewers, according to Fox. That makes it the most-watched regular-season game on any network in history. It broke the previous regular-season mark of 41.474 million viewers for the 1990 49ers-Giants game. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/11/25/a-regular-season-nfl-record-42-million-people-watched-cowboys-giants-game/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 28, 2022 Share Posted November 28, 2022 Quote Following another poor performance by the Broncos offense I had a number of questions pop up regarding any possible outs in Russell Wilson’s recent $245 million contract extension and what would be the realistic timetable for moving on from Wilson. Much like Aaron Rodgers’ contract the deal is a bit complicated but there is far less chance of retirement or trade in this situation. https://overthecap.com/the-broncos-options-with-russell-wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 22 hours ago, swede700 said: https://overthecap.com/the-broncos-options-with-russell-wilson Feel like this is the type of move that should cost the GM his job. Or will they blame the head coach and not the decision to bring in the QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: Feel like this is the type of move that should cost the GM his job. Or will they blame the head coach and not the decision to bring in the QB. It depends upon the "collaboration" involved in making the decision to bring him in. While Hackett is likely to get fired (I personally think they should give him one more year), he'd be the easy scapegoat. But, I'm not sure anyone could have anticipated how Russ would just fall apart. I think everyone knew he was an odd duck, but not that his effort would fall off like it has. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Fire Hackett and bring in a coach who’s smart enough to run the offense that Wilson ran in Seattle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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