vike daddy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 This is how times in the NFL have changed re: compensation in less than a generation: Under the terms of Lamar Jackson’s new contract with the Baltimore Ravens, he will make $80 million in salary and bonuses in 2023. In the first 10 years of Tom Brady’s career with the New England Patriots, he made $73.059 million in salary and bonuses, per overthecap.com. Lamar Jackson in his first five seasons in the postseason: 1-3, with three TD passes and zero Super Bowl wins. Tom Brady in his first 10 seasons: 14-4 in the playoffs, with 28 TD passes and three Super Bowl wins. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/05/08/nfl-offseason-power-rankings-eagles-packers-bryce-young-peter-king-fmia/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) Peter King and Florio need to get over it. Pick any QB that had a recent payday and apply the same logic. Yes times have changed. More interesting would be the growth in franchise value. The Patriots were worth $571 million in 2002, and are now worth $6.4 BILLION. Perhaps they didn't mean it this way (I would have a hard time believing that), but maybe don't shame QBs that aren't Tom Brady for cashing in because they generate ridiculous sums of money for the NFL's owners. Edited May 8 by JDBrocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 11 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: Peter King and Florio need to get over it. Pick any QB that had a recent payday and apply the same logic. Yes times have changed. More interesting would be the growth in franchise value. The Patriots were worth $571 million in 2002, and are now worth $6.4 BILLION. Perhaps they didn't mean it this way (I would have a hard time believing that), but maybe don't shame QBs that aren't Tom Brady for cashing in because the they generate ridiculous sums of money for the NFL's owners. It was also Bradys choice to always take less money to help the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 2 hours ago, JDBrocks said: Peter King and Florio need to get over it. Pick any QB that had a recent payday and apply the same logic. Yes times have changed. More interesting would be the growth in franchise value. The Patriots were worth $571 million in 2002, and are now worth $6.4 BILLION. Perhaps they didn't mean it this way (I would have a hard time believing that), but maybe don't shame QBs that aren't Tom Brady for cashing in because they generate ridiculous sums of money for the NFL's owners. i absorbed the article content has more as "look how the game has changed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Better that guys like Jackson get the money than a guy like Bradford, who made $50M without having even played a down at the NFL level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, vike daddy said: i absorbed the article content has more as "look how the game has changed." I read it through the lens of Florio being very critical of Jackson specifically through the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 14 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: I read it through the lens of Florio being very critical of Jackson specifically through the process. I think people have every right to have a critical opinion of Lamar's process. It was handled rather poorly, even if, in the end, he got a decent deal out of it. He clearly mishandled it, especially in calling the Ravens out in social media, which he did at various times, including even notifying people that he requested a trade (which he now suggests was fake). He acted very immaturely, which an agent would have stopped him from doing. I can't imagine that it did a lot of benefit to his public image. Edited May 8 by swede700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 (edited) 9 minutes ago, swede700 said: I think people have every right to have a critical opinion of Lamar's process. It was handled rather poorly, even if, in the end, he got a decent deal out of it. He clearly mishandled it, especially in calling the Ravens out in social media, which he did at various times, including even notifying people that he requested a trade (which he now suggests was fake). He acted very immaturely, which an agent would have stopped him from doing. I can't imagine that it did a lot of benefit to his public image. Florio is so salty that Jackson still ended up with the highest AAV contract in league history, that he wrote a headline about settling. for the richest contract ever. Why do fans criticize players rather than "writers" out there carrying the league's water? Edited May 8 by JDBrocks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Florio's criticism was entirely warranted. Nothing about the way Lamar went about this was intelligent, beneficial, or necessary...and it was plain as day to everyone except Jackson. As to the article, I also think it was a "holy cow, look at how compensation has increased," more than a "Lamar didn't deserve this deal." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 If it was solely about "how the game has changed" the stats about playoff records etc. were totally unnecessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, JDBrocks said: Florio is salty that he still ended up with the highest AAV contract in league history, that he wrote a headline about settling. for the richest contract ever. Why do fans criticize players rather than "writers" out there carrying the league's water? Nothing about that headline is inaccurate. Jackson wanted a deal similar to Watson. He didn't get it. He also didn't get a single offer from another team...because they weren't going to give it to him either. Yes, he got the highest AAV ever. It doesn't mean he got the best deal, or that he couldn't have been collecting that cash a lot sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 I bet he feels just terrible about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 4 minutes ago, JDBrocks said: I bet he feels just terrible about it. Lot's of people feel fine about mistakes. And yes, he and his family are probably set for life. It still doesn't mean he couldn't have done better, sooner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 50 minutes ago, wcblack34 said: Lot's of people feel fine about mistakes. And yes, he and his family are probably set for life. It still doesn't mean he couldn't have done better, sooner. Exactly. No one is going to feel sorry for him with the generational money he's receiving, just as no one feels sorry for the owners who made paper billions in increased value of their franchises over the last few decades. All I've suggested, as have others, that he handled the process poorly and if he had had an agent, probably could have garnered even more. You don't think that were he to have had Kirk's agent, he wouldn't have made far and above what he's now going to be making, even with a 3% commission coming off the top? I think he could have. I think many players probably could get away with not having an agent, especially for their rookie deals. However, for a player that plays the most important position, I only think he did himself a disservice. I sincerely hope he has a financial advisor at least and doesn't think he can manage that himself too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 (edited) This morning I pulled up on OTC the contract details for Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. In short, it is apparent that Lamar Jackson's agent (himself) got a way better deal than Josh Allen's agent. Both QBs were selected in 2018, but Allen was draft higher in the first round so after their slotted rookie deals Allen had a considerable head start in career earnings -- $21.1MM to $9.5MM. Given their current contracts, through 2027 Allen will have earned $286MM and will be under contract for 2028 for $15.5MM. At that same point, Lamar Jackson will have earned $292.5MM and be a free agent in 2028. Josh Allen, after the extension he signed is under contract until 2028. Lamar Jackson, after signing his new contract is under contract only until 2027 -- a fact that betrays the argument that Jackson would be free to sign a new contract earlier had he earlier signed an extension. Not to be overlooked, Josh Allen's contract will give him very little leverage in negotiations for his third contract compared to the leverage Jackson's contract will give him in negotiations for his third contract. Agents, and people shilling for agents, are doing everything they can to spin Jackson's decision to act as his own agent in a negative light, but ignoring the noise and looking at the numbers Jackson has done far better than Josh Allen, a QB that was drafted in the same year in a higher draft position that many league observers believe to be the superior QB. Edited May 9 by Cearbhall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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