drfrey13 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 37 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: The OL sucked last year and RT was a revolving door. Hudson is a big loss, but besides him, do you really see a dropoff from Jackson to Good? Or adding Incognito back in the lineup? I do think if Incognito isn't 100%, it will really hurt up front. Huge drop off if Incognito can not stay healthy. Good can only play one guard spot at a time. We need to dependable backups for me to start feeling comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, drfrey13 said: Huge drop off if Incognito can not stay healthy. Good can only play one guard spot at a time. We need to dependable backups for me to start feeling comfortable. I think Simpson showed some things. I was hoping we would take another guard though because besides him, IOL depth is shallow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I think Simpson showed some things. I was hoping we would take another guard though because besides him, IOL depth is shallow. that's why I was hope that last pick was a guard. We already have Martin as backup center, and we should confident in James if we paid him. If Richie breaks down, we have nothing behind Good and Simpson. An UDFA could have slid in there, but got nothing. Could maybe get a cheap vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitty 2.0 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 12 hours ago, big_palooka said: The Oline is significantly worse. And if history has taught us anything, pressure destroys Carr. This offense is going to go through some issues and isn't going to be a top 10 scoring unit like a year ago with that Oline. Defense will improve (how couldn't it), but they still have holes and lack depth. It's still a bottom of 3rd of the league defense, just not bottom 3 like last year. The roster is the least talented overall in the division, except they have a better QB than Denver. This is a 7-8 win team. What A players exist on this team outside Waller? Let's say Yannick is an A player on defense. But whom else? How is the O-line worse?? 2 of the 3 linemen didn't play a lot last year ( Brown didn't play a lot for the last 2 years) and Incognito is back which is a huge upgrade over last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: that's why I was hope that last pick was a guard. We already have Martin as backup center, and we should confident in James if we paid him. If Richie breaks down, we have nothing behind Good and Simpson. An UDFA could have slid in there, but got nothing. Could maybe get a cheap vet I’m wondering if they think Morissey has guard versatility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Bitty 2.0 said: How is the O-line worse?? 2 of the 3 linemen didn't play a lot last year ( Brown didn't play a lot for the last 2 years) and Incognito is back which is a huge upgrade over last year. The real answer is: No one knows. LT will be the same. LG with Richie back is an upgrade. C is a clear downgrade. RG will be about the same. Good isn’t a far drop off from Gabe. RT is tricky. Leatherwood will have clear growing pains his first year. Hard to imagine it could be worse than our RT play last year, but it could be about the same. So two positions of the same play, one downgrade, one upgrade, and RT is a question mark. I think we’ll have pretty similar line play as last year. But really, no one knows. Could be better, could be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I’m wondering if they think Morissey has guard versatility. he has the size 6'3 305.. could prolly put on some muscle in a NFL strength program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, BayRaider said: The real answer is: No one knows. LT will be the same. LG with Richie back is an upgrade. C is a clear downgrade. RG will be about the same. Good isn’t a far drop off from Gabe. RT is tricky. Leatherwood will have clear growing pains his first year. Hard to imagine it could be worse than our RT play last year, but it could be about the same. So two positions of the same play, one downgrade, one upgrade, and RT is a question mark. I think we’ll have pretty similar line play as last year. But really, no one knows. Could be better, could be worse. LT- I actually think Kolton Miller is just hitting his prime. I could see him making a move to All Pro-Pro Bowl level. I think he is close and his salary will hype him around the year. He is the leader now LG- Richie missed the entire year. He's the wildcard this year, I wonder if he can come back, or at least hold up. You have to expect a drop off at somepoint. Also wonder if Simpson is ready, can Cable develop him C- downgrade in 2021, but James has potential. RG- feel the same. Gabe and Good are a wash. Gabe wasn't worth the money RT- think same, be nice if Leatherwood came in and was rock solid. He will get tested as a rookie. I think there is a lot of potential, but still alot of youth need to prove themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 5-12 KC, LAC, BAL, MIA, WFT, KC, LAC, CLE, DAL, PIT, NYG, IND are the ones I expect to lose. Maybe split with the Broncos instead of sweeping them and beat one of the NFC east teams. Even like Chicago I think is going to be tough. I could also see a wildcard berth, I just dont think it's likely. NFC East teams and Chargers are the most likely to flip to wins for us for the ones I listed as expect to lose I think. Edited May 6, 2021 by Trojan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, Trojan said: 5-12 KC, LAC, BAL, MIA, WFT, KC, LAC, CLE, DAL, PIT, NYG, IND are the ones I expect to lose. Maybe split with the Broncos instead of sweeping them and beat one of the NFC east teams. Even like Chicago I think is going to be tough. I could also see a wildcard berth, I just dont think it's likely. NFC East teams and Chargers are the most likely to flip to wins for us for the ones I listed as expect to lose I think. So we go from 4-2 in the AFC west to 1-5? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 8-9 but if we stay healthy and consistent I think we go to the playoffs with a few more wins. KC wins gives us some momo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 hours ago, Humble_Beast said: he has the size 6'3 305.. could prolly put on some muscle in a NFL strength program. Shame he mentally weak so probably best to move on quick do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_palooka Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 8 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: So we go from 4-2 in the AFC west to 1-5? I don't think so. That isn't that far fetched. The Raiders have the worst roster in the division easily. KC is miles better and got better this offseason with Reed addition and a rebuilt Oline. Chargers, I think the Raiders can split with them. If Herbert builds on last season, it could be tough. Denver they just don't have the QB, but if Lock turns a corner (doubtful) they are going to be a tough team. No two seasons are the same. Just because they beat KC a year ago doesn't mean they will again. Way to many question marks with the Raiders right now. Oline and WR being unproved. So many young players on defense they will rely on to boost that unit. I don't like this team for 2021. They look more built for 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 17 hours ago, drfrey13 said: The o-line was banged up but the problem was that two of the starters that did not get hurt are gone and the one that came back is 38 coming off of an Achilles injury. I think Good and Miller will be fine but the 3 other spots are question marks without any trustworthy backups. One of our top 2 backups is Parker and that is only if our top O-linemen goes down. If he needs to go to the right side he is probably our worst backup. Good thing we got that 3rd center in the 7th or else I would be really scared. The line is 1-2 injuries away from completely falling apart. We are extremely thin on the line but it is okay because we have Cable. I don't know man. We made do after losing T. Brown and Inc, I think we'll find a way to keep moving forward. I think our offense will be about the same as last year or at least top 15 if we start losing OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayRaider Posted May 6, 2021 Author Share Posted May 6, 2021 12 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: So we go from 4-2 in the AFC west to 1-5? I don't think so. I certainly can’t see 1-5, but I definitely don’t expect a 4-2 repeat. Odds are we’ll get swept by KC this year. We’re not sweeping Denver, likely a split, their roster is actually really good minus the QB situation. As for L.A. probably also a split. I’d say 2-4|3-3 both have a 50% chance of happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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