OneTwoSixFive Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 4 hours ago, ThatJerkDave said: It would probably depend on what prospects were still sitting there. I promise twitter would be lighting their pets on fire. I think this board is pretty level, most of the time. I'm sure there will be some of us that love the pick, and some of us that hate it in the moment. I guess we will see. That's the key phrase 'in the moment'. How many times have we shouted "WTF !!!" on a pick, only to go away look at some tape, absorb what the draftniks have to say and calm down to a much greater acceptance of the choice. I went through the exact same process with Rashan Gary (though surprisingly, I was fine when they took Love). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sandy said: Just checked out Burford. He's a Packer for sure if no one else scoops him up. Perfect developmental prospect, age 22 all season which is rare on this class. Interesting about Penning, I hadn't heard that before and probably solidified why we wouldn't want him. The other issue with Penning is I don't see them breaking the age rule in the first round for him. The COVID year might change things and they might take a 23yo early but why would we take him over Tyler Smith imo who's two years younger. We'll probably miss on both of them and take something like Burford or Tom in 4 and Van Demark or Andriese in Rd 7 Spencer Burford has a nice looking tape, I like his physicality and he moves well too but the level of competition he was up against wasn't exactly NFL calibre. Like you said he would be a good developmental prospect to have. Maybe it's just me but i'm not a fan of OL who are naturally thin but put on weight in order to play the position. Those are the types who may have trouble maintaining their weight throughout their career and hamper their effectiveness on the field. I look at their face and see a thin guy and then look down and he's basically fat. It's weird. I always prefer to lean towards OL who are naturally big, big face, big broad shoulders, big thighs, thick arms, the weight looks natural and it stays on them. You see that in Sitton, Lang, Bulaga and Jenkins for example yet we still went out and drafted Spriggs who just could not put on weight and its obvious just by taking one look at him. Not sure what the Packers were thinking. It's the reason why I was unhappy with us drafting Royce Newman. He's a classic skinny guy trying to be big but so far he has proven me wrong and I hope it continues. Burford gives me that kind of vibes. It's not a deal breaker but if there's an equal prospect who is naturally big I would rather take him instead. Edited April 24, 2022 by Chili 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Scoremore said: Oh poor Leader...like him too dude but you are pounding the table too hard. Now there is no way we'll take him. Packers never take guys we talk about. You just screwed yourself. Getting emotionally invested in a player. It's tough out there man. Try to not break your TV during the draft. Too funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) I will be shocked and laugh if somebody takes Ojabo in round 1. He's out for the year in all reality and you have no guarantee he's going to have his burst coming off of an Achilles injury. I'd take him end of round 2 to early 3 and not before. The sad part is that workout cost this kid millions of dollars and he may never get a second contract because of this injury to make up for the loss. Edited April 24, 2022 by Old Guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laces Out Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 2 years ago almost to the day the green bay Packers brass not only drafted a QB in the first round, but traded up - none the less - to do so. "Oh... Oh no" Reddit was right once again. 🤡 Edited April 24, 2022 by Laces Out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrimiv Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 I've never had a problem understanding the Love selection in and of itself. What I'll never understand is the trade up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said: That's the key phrase 'in the moment'. How many times have we shouted "WTF !!!" on a pick, only to go away look at some tape, absorb what the draftniks have to say and calm down to a much greater acceptance of the choice. I went through the exact same process with Rashan Gary (though surprisingly, I was fine when they took Love). Exactly, you can't fall in love with a bunch of youtube highlights. What does he do the other 95% of the plays. The Packers know what they want and you gotta let it play out. I give a draft 2 years. After 2 years you pretty much know what you got (except Love). Doesn't mean they can't get better, but you have a good idea of what you can expect after a couple of years of playing. Edited April 24, 2022 by NFLGURU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Was listening to a PFF podcast about WRs and they mentioned an interesting measurable which has some correlation to production in the NFL and that is wingspan. Here is a list of wingspans of some of the more popular names of WRs for this draft and how that might factor into thinking about them. The first guy on the list, I haven't come across him, but I put him in for relatable value as he had the largest wingspan, the next guy listed has the smallest wingspan of all WR prospects and he is a name most of us know. Interesting, Calvin Austin III is shorter than Wan'Dale but has a much larger wingspan. As a comparison, Olave who is over 6ft, almost has the identical wingspan as Calvin Austin. It also reinforces the idea that Kevin Austin Jr. could be a player with the size of his wingspan. Largest wingspan -Devon Williams, Oregon Height: 6-foot-5 Weight: 210 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 34 1/8 inches Wingspan: 81 inches Smallest wingspan - Wan’Dale Robinson, Kentucky Height: 5-foot-8 Weight: 178 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 27 5/8 inches Wingspan: 67 5/8 inches __________________ Kevin Austin Jr., Notre Dame Height: 6-foot-2 3/8 Weight: 200 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 32 7/8 inches Wingspan: 79 1/4 inches Tyquan Thornton, Baylor Height: 6-foot-2 3/8 Weight: 181 pounds Hand Size: 8 1/4 inches Arm Length: 33 1/4 inches Wingspan: 79 1/4 inches Treylon Burks, Arkansas Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 225 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 33 1/2 inches Wingspan: 79 1/8 inches Alex Pierce, Cincinnati Height: 6-foot-3 1/8 Weight: 211 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 33 inches Wingspan: 78 1/2 inches Justyn Ross, Clemson Height: 6-foot-3 5/8 Weight: 205 pounds Hand Size: 9 5/8 inches Arm Length: 32 1/8 inches Wingspan: 77 7/8 inches Drake London, USC Height: 6-foot-3 7-8 Weight: 219 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/8 inches Arm Length: 33 inches Wingspan: 77 3/4 inches Christian Watson, North Dakota State Height: 6-foot-4 1/8 Weight: 208 pounds Hand Size: 10 1/8 inches Arm Length: 32 1/2 inches Wingspan: 77 5/8 inches Romeo Doubs, Nevada Height: 6-foot-1 7/8 Weight: 201 pounds Hand Size: 10 inches Arm Length: 32 1/4 inches Wingspan: 77 3/8 inches George Pickens, Georgia Height: 6-foot-3 2/8 Weight: 195 pounds Hand Size: 8 3/4 inches Arm Length: 32 3/8 inches Wingspan: 77 3/8 inchesDanny Gray, SMU Height: 5-foot-11 7/8 Weight: 186 pounds Hand Size: 9 5/8 inches Arm Length: 31 7/8 inches Wingspan: 76 7/8 inches David Bell, Purdue Height: 6-foot-1 7/8 Weight: 212 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 31 7/8 inches Wingspan: 76 5/8 inches Bo Melton, Rutgers Height: 5-foot-11 Weight: 189 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 31 1/4 inches Wingspan: 76 1/2 inches Garrett Wilson, Ohio State Height: 5-foot-11 6/8 Weight: 183 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 32 inches Wingspan: 76 1/2 inches Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama Height: 6-foot-1 1/8 Weight: 194 pounds Hand Size: 10 inches Arm Length: 32 1/4 inches Wingspan: 76 3/8 inches Jameson Williams, Alabama Height: 6-foot-1 4/8 Weight: 179 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 32 1/8 inches Wingspan: 75 7/8 inchesSkyy Moore, Western Michigan Height: 5-foot-9 5/8 Weight: 195 pounds Hand Size: 10 1/4 inches Arm Length: 31 inches Wingspan: 73 5/8 inches John Metchie, Alabama Height: 5-foot-11 2/8 Weight: 187 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 30 5/8 inches Wingspan: 73 3/8 inches Velus Jones, Tennessee Height: 5-foot-11 6/8 Weight: 204 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/4 inches Arm Length: 30 7/8 inches Wingspan: 73 1/2 inchesChris Olave, Ohio State Height: 6-foot-0 3/8 Weight: 187 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/2 inches Arm Length: 31 1/8 inches Wingspan: 73 1/8 inches Calvin Austin III, Memphis Height: 5-foot-7 6/8 Weight: 170 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 30 inches Wingspan: 73 inches Johan Dotson, Penn State Height: 5-foot-10 5/8 Weight: 193 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/4 inches Arm Length: 29 3/8 inches Wingspan: 72 1/8 inchesKhalil Shakir, Boise State Height: 5-foot-11 7/8 Weight: 196 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/2 inches Arm Length: 29 inches Wingspan: 70 3/8 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NFLGURU Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Brit Pack said: Was listening to a PFF podcast about WRs and they mentioned an interesting measurable which has some correlation to production in the NFL and that is wingspan. Here is a list of wingspans of some of the more popular names of WRs for this draft and how that might factor into thinking about them. The first guy on the list, I haven't come across him, but I put him in for relatable value as he had the largest wingspan, the next guy listed has the smallest wingspan of all WR prospects and he is a name most of us know. Interesting, Calvin Austin III is shorter than Wan'Dale but has a much larger wingspan. As a comparison, Olave who is over 6ft, almost has the identical wingspan as Calvin Austin. It also reinforces the idea that Kevin Austin Jr. could be a player with the size of his wingspan. Largest wingspan -Devon Williams, Oregon Height: 6-foot-5 Weight: 210 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 34 1/8 inches Wingspan: 81 inches Smallest wingspan - Wan’Dale Robinson, Kentucky Height: 5-foot-8 Weight: 178 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 27 5/8 inches Wingspan: 67 5/8 inches __________________ Kevin Austin Jr., Notre Dame Height: 6-foot-2 3/8 Weight: 200 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 32 7/8 inches Wingspan: 79 1/4 inches Tyquan Thornton, Baylor Height: 6-foot-2 3/8 Weight: 181 pounds Hand Size: 8 1/4 inches Arm Length: 33 1/4 inches Wingspan: 79 1/4 inches Treylon Burks, Arkansas Height: 6-foot-2 Weight: 225 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 33 1/2 inches Wingspan: 79 1/8 inches Alex Pierce, Cincinnati Height: 6-foot-3 1/8 Weight: 211 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 33 inches Wingspan: 78 1/2 inches Justyn Ross, Clemson Height: 6-foot-3 5/8 Weight: 205 pounds Hand Size: 9 5/8 inches Arm Length: 32 1/8 inches Wingspan: 77 7/8 inches Drake London, USC Height: 6-foot-3 7-8 Weight: 219 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/8 inches Arm Length: 33 inches Wingspan: 77 3/4 inches Christian Watson, North Dakota State Height: 6-foot-4 1/8 Weight: 208 pounds Hand Size: 10 1/8 inches Arm Length: 32 1/2 inches Wingspan: 77 5/8 inches Romeo Doubs, Nevada Height: 6-foot-1 7/8 Weight: 201 pounds Hand Size: 10 inches Arm Length: 32 1/4 inches Wingspan: 77 3/8 inches George Pickens, Georgia Height: 6-foot-3 2/8 Weight: 195 pounds Hand Size: 8 3/4 inches Arm Length: 32 3/8 inches Wingspan: 77 3/8 inchesDanny Gray, SMU Height: 5-foot-11 7/8 Weight: 186 pounds Hand Size: 9 5/8 inches Arm Length: 31 7/8 inches Wingspan: 76 7/8 inches David Bell, Purdue Height: 6-foot-1 7/8 Weight: 212 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 31 7/8 inches Wingspan: 76 5/8 inches Bo Melton, Rutgers Height: 5-foot-11 Weight: 189 pounds Hand Size: 9 inches Arm Length: 31 1/4 inches Wingspan: 76 1/2 inches Garrett Wilson, Ohio State Height: 5-foot-11 6/8 Weight: 183 pounds Hand Size: 9 7/8 inches Arm Length: 32 inches Wingspan: 76 1/2 inches Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama Height: 6-foot-1 1/8 Weight: 194 pounds Hand Size: 10 inches Arm Length: 32 1/4 inches Wingspan: 76 3/8 inches Jameson Williams, Alabama Height: 6-foot-1 4/8 Weight: 179 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 32 1/8 inches Wingspan: 75 7/8 inchesSkyy Moore, Western Michigan Height: 5-foot-9 5/8 Weight: 195 pounds Hand Size: 10 1/4 inches Arm Length: 31 inches Wingspan: 73 5/8 inches John Metchie, Alabama Height: 5-foot-11 2/8 Weight: 187 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 30 5/8 inches Wingspan: 73 3/8 inches Velus Jones, Tennessee Height: 5-foot-11 6/8 Weight: 204 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/4 inches Arm Length: 30 7/8 inches Wingspan: 73 1/2 inchesChris Olave, Ohio State Height: 6-foot-0 3/8 Weight: 187 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/2 inches Arm Length: 31 1/8 inches Wingspan: 73 1/8 inches Calvin Austin III, Memphis Height: 5-foot-7 6/8 Weight: 170 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/4 inches Arm Length: 30 inches Wingspan: 73 inches Johan Dotson, Penn State Height: 5-foot-10 5/8 Weight: 193 pounds Hand Size: 9 3/4 inches Arm Length: 29 3/8 inches Wingspan: 72 1/8 inchesKhalil Shakir, Boise State Height: 5-foot-11 7/8 Weight: 196 pounds Hand Size: 9 1/2 inches Arm Length: 29 inches Wingspan: 70 3/8 inches I dont disagree with any of this, but find it interesting that Dotson is a smaller target and wingspan yet is thought to have the best hands in the draft (London is up there for hands too). Edited April 24, 2022 by NFLGURU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 11 hours ago, Tperk said: What if we take Williams and Ojabo with first 2 picks? We won't. But I'd laugh pretty damn hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: I've never had a problem understanding the Love selection in and of itself. What I'll never understand is the trade up. Because they gave up so much for him? How many years did we complain about TT not being aggressive and getting his guys, and when Gute does we complain about giving up Day 3 picks. We gave #136 and the most notable names taken within 30 picks were La'Jarius Sneed (21 career starts), Tyler Biadasz (21 starts), and Bryce Hall (25 career starts). It's largely a bunch of depth guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: I've never had a problem understanding the Love selection in and of itself. What I'll never understand is the trade up. I do not understand this at all. I'm cool with drafting a guy we think will be QB of the Future. But I draw the line at adding a 4th round pick to get him????? How does that make sense? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: I do not understand this at all. I'm cool with drafting a guy we think will be QB of the Future. But I draw the line at adding a 4th round pick to get him????? How does that make sense? No kidding. And even if Love never plays a snap for the Packers in a meaningful way, what we got out of Aaron Rodgers makes that pick worth it IMO. But we're getting off-topic on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, CWood21 said: No kidding. And even if Love never plays a snap for the Packers in a meaningful way, what we got out of Aaron Rodgers makes that pick worth it IMO. But we're getting off-topic on that one. Pretty much agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said: I've never had a problem understanding the Love selection in and of itself. What I'll never understand is the trade up. That shouldn't be hard to understand at all. Their board probably dictated it, a player they had rated much higher than anyone left on the board is worth using a 4th to go get. Regardless of the position it's a move to mix every time, now add in that he is a QB and QB being the most valuable position in the game of football made it a very easy decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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