2022 NFL Draft Thread

[JBURGE]

28 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

2 hours ago, Mazrimiv said:

I've never had a problem understanding the Love selection in and of itself.  What I'll never understand is the trade up.

I do not understand this at all. 

I'm cool with drafting a guy we think will be QB of the Future.

But I draw the line at adding a 4th round pick to get him?????

How does that make sense?

It's the implication

[CWood21]

Again, a "won't happen" draft.

1.22, 4.132, 4.140 -> 1.24, 2.56 (Cowboys, OT Trevor Penning)
1.24 - George Pickens [WR; Georgia]
1.28, 5.171, 7.228 -> 2.33, 3.65 (Jaguars, OT Bernhard Raimann)
2.33, 2.59, 7.249, 7.258 -> 2.35, 2.38 (Jets, S Lewis Cine)
2.35, 2.56 -> 2.39, 2.48, 5.148, 5.150, 6.186 (Bears, EDGE Arnold Ektibere)
2.38, 3.65 -> 2.40, 2.41 (Seahawks, QB Kenny Pickett)
2.39 - Travis Jones [DT; UConn]
2.40 - Jalen Pitre [DB; Baylor]
2.41, 5.148, 6.186 -> 2.50, 2.62 (Chiefs, CB Kyler Gordon)
2.48 - Josh Paschal [EDGE; Kentucky]
2.50, 5.150 -> 3.68, 3.80, 4.107, 6.205 (Texans, EDGE Drake Jackson)
2.53 - John Metchie [WR; Alabama]
2.62, 3.80 -> 3.65, 3.72, 4.109 (Seahawks, CB Tariq Woolen)
3.65 - Sam Williams [EDGE; Ole Miss]
3.68 - Greg Dulcich [TE; UCLA]
3.72 - Perrion Winfrey [DT; Oklahoma]
3.92, 6.205 -> 3.99, 4.118, 7.246 (Browns, OT Nicholas Petit-Frere)
3.99 - David Bell [WR; Purdue]
4.107 - Jeremy Ruckert [TE; Ohio State]
4.109 - Zyon McCollum [CB; Sam Houston State]
4.118 - Rachaad White [RB; Arizona State]
7.246 - Ryan Stonehouse [P; Colorado State]
 

[JBURGE]

woody this is way too confusing to read. I'll grade it an F

[Arthur Penske]

15 minutes ago, JBURGE said:

It's the implication

[Brit Pack]

If we didn't go premium picks for WR in the 1st, in my mind that is Burks at 22 and Pickens at 28, I'm liking the idea of Tolbert much more now at 53 now. Trey McBride at 59. Bell in the 3rd and Kyle Phillips in the 4th.

Like Pierce a lot too, think though he'll be gone early 2nd. That's why I prefer the trade back from 22.

 

[NFLGURU]

The Packers have their drafting method of operation.  The wrinkle this year is the Rodgers window and a weaker WR room.  

Does that play into this draft or is it business as usual?    We'll find out in a few days.

[Leader]

30 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

Again, a "won't happen" draft.

1.22, 4.132, 4.140 -> 1.24, 2.56 (Cowboys, OT Trevor Penning)
1.24 - George Pickens [WR; Georgia]
1.28, 5.171, 7.228 -> 2.33, 3.65 (Jaguars, OT Bernhard Raimann)
2.33, 2.59, 7.249, 7.258 -> 2.35, 2.38 (Jets, S Lewis Cine)
2.35, 2.56 -> 2.39, 2.48, 5.148, 5.150, 6.186 (Bears, EDGE Arnold Ektibere)
2.38, 3.65 -> 2.40, 2.41 (Seahawks, QB Kenny Pickett)
2.39 - Travis Jones [DT; UConn]
2.40 - Jalen Pitre [DB; Baylor]
2.41, 5.148, 6.186 -> 2.50, 2.62 (Chiefs, CB Kyler Gordon)
2.48 - Josh Paschal [EDGE; Kentucky]
2.50, 5.150 -> 3.68, 3.80, 4.107, 6.205 (Texans, EDGE Drake Jackson)
2.53 - John Metchie [WR; Alabama]
2.62, 3.80 -> 3.65, 3.72, 4.109 (Seahawks, CB Tariq Woolen)
3.65 - Sam Williams [EDGE; Ole Miss]
3.68 - Greg Dulcich [TE; UCLA]
3.72 - Perrion Winfrey [DT; Oklahoma]
3.92, 6.205 -> 3.99, 4.118, 7.246 (Browns, OT Nicholas Petit-Frere)
3.99 - David Bell [WR; Purdue]
4.107 - Jeremy Ruckert [TE; Ohio State]
4.109 - Zyon McCollum [CB; Sam Houston State]
4.118 - Rachaad White [RB; Arizona State]
7.246 - Ryan Stonehouse [P; Colorado State]
 

Safe to say that if you pulled off this many trades....for this haul of bodies....you'd win the "2022 Draft Day Award"

[cannondale]

7 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

The Packers have their drafting method of operation.  The wrinkle this year is the Rodgers window and a weaker WR room.  

Does that play into this draft or is it business as usual?    We'll find out in a few days.

Last year the Packers needed a CB and a Center. They drafted a CB and a C. 

[NFLGURU]

22 minutes ago, cannondale said:

Last year the Packers needed a CB and a Center. They drafted a CB and a C. 

 

28 minutes ago, cannondale said:

Last year the Packers needed a CB and a Center. They drafted a CB and a C. 

The talent was there, but it won't work consistently drafting that way. 

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, CWood21 said:

Again, a "won't happen" draft.

1.22, 4.132, 4.140 -> 1.24, 2.56 (Cowboys, OT Trevor Penning)
1.24 - George Pickens [WR; Georgia]
1.28, 5.171, 7.228 -> 2.33, 3.65 (Jaguars, OT Bernhard Raimann)
2.33, 2.59, 7.249, 7.258 -> 2.35, 2.38 (Jets, S Lewis Cine)
2.35, 2.56 -> 2.39, 2.48, 5.148, 5.150, 6.186 (Bears, EDGE Arnold Ektibere)
2.38, 3.65 -> 2.40, 2.41 (Seahawks, QB Kenny Pickett)
2.39 - Travis Jones [DT; UConn]
2.40 - Jalen Pitre [DB; Baylor]
2.41, 5.148, 6.186 -> 2.50, 2.62 (Chiefs, CB Kyler Gordon)
2.48 - Josh Paschal [EDGE; Kentucky]
2.50, 5.150 -> 3.68, 3.80, 4.107, 6.205 (Texans, EDGE Drake Jackson)
2.53 - John Metchie [WR; Alabama]
2.62, 3.80 -> 3.65, 3.72, 4.109 (Seahawks, CB Tariq Woolen)
3.65 - Sam Williams [EDGE; Ole Miss]
3.68 - Greg Dulcich [TE; UCLA]
3.72 - Perrion Winfrey [DT; Oklahoma]
3.92, 6.205 -> 3.99, 4.118, 7.246 (Browns, OT Nicholas Petit-Frere)
3.99 - David Bell [WR; Purdue]
4.107 - Jeremy Ruckert [TE; Ohio State]
4.109 - Zyon McCollum [CB; Sam Houston State]
4.118 - Rachaad White [RB; Arizona State]
7.246 - Ryan Stonehouse [P; Colorado State]
 

Sign me the F up for this one right now! You've got a whole bunch of my draft crushes and covered all the needs to boot, except O-line. The first ten guys you drafted all contribute year one. Maybe not Mechie coming off the ACL. 

 

Edited April 24, 2022 by Old Guy

[CWood21]

1 hour ago, JBURGE said:

woody this is way too confusing to read. I'll grade it an F

That why I bolded it just for you. ❤️

[Chili]

I'm in the camp who had no problems with the Love pick. Rodgers was 36 years old and wasn't looking like his normal self. We always knew we were going to draft Rodgers potential replacement sooner or later and at the time the timing seemed right. Rodgers old, New Head Coach, New GM. Seemed fair enough.

Some people say we did it a year or two too early....Ok, lets play along with that line of thought. In 2021 the last QB to be taken in the first was Mac Jones at pick 15. We were pick 29. We had no shot of nabbing any kind of quality QB. The QB taken in later rounds were nothing to shout about. In this years draft it sounds like people are not enamored with this QB draft class, let's pretend Adams wasn't traded, we're stuck all the way down at pick 28. Do we even have a shot of landing a good QB? probably not.

Imagine we traded Adams, getting rid of Rodger's best receiver and in the process turn around and use that #22 first round pick acquired in the trade to draft his QB replacement!! The optics would've been terrible and I guarantee you Rodgers would be shooting fire from his eyes.

When a QB with good mobility and a excellent arm falls you got to do everything you can to get him because where we draft we almost got no shot of landing a solid prospect to work with. It's rare that a QB with good tools fall that far down and #26 is pretty late in the draft and was absolutely worth the risk of a small trade up. Opportunities to draft a QB like that just does not happen for us everyday and Gute was smart enough to realise this and like TT he was brave enough to make the call. He didn't cost much to trade up either - just a 4th round pick.

Even if Love does not work out drafting him lit a fire under Rodgers arse and produced two MVP seasons in a row and a tantalising shot at the superbowl. Maybe he produces a 3rd MVP season and a superbowl win. Worth it.

Baltimore is considered a smart draft orientated team, well they traded up to draft Lamaar Jackson at 32 when the opportunity presented itself despite having 33 years old Super Bowl winning QB Flacco at the helm. The Packers had the opportunity to draft him too but we passed because we had 34 years old Rodgers, the same age Stafford is now. It was still a bit too early for us to draft his replacement. Baltimore certainly didn't think it was too early for them and it turned out to be the right decision.

Look at the Colts and Patriots when suddenly found themselves without their franchise QB. Neither has quite recovered, the Patriots did manage to have a decent QB fall to them in the draft, the Colts were not so lucky. The Saints didn't really have a succession plan in place to replace Brees and settled on Winston. The Steelers didn't have one when Rothlisburger retired and now trying their luck with Tribusky. It wouldn't surprise me if both are looking to draft a QB this year IF a good QB manages to fall to them. Seattle may be another one if the draft doesn't work out for them this year.

Other people argue we should've just simply waited for Rodgers to retire. have a crap season and draft a QB with our high first round pick. I got news for you, it's just not in the Packers DNA to lose, this is how bad teams operate. We are an organisation with the highest standards and will always strive to win. It is that mindset which is the reason why we drafted Love when we did and I wouldn't have it any other way.

You can't pass on a QB when the opportunity arises in the hopes you will have a similar opportunity next year or the year after that. That opportunity may never come for a long time. So when the opportunity does presents itself you got to take it, that what smart drafting teams do, that's what Baltimore and Green Bay did (twice).

Edited April 24, 2022 by Chili

[Green19]

2 hours ago, Arthur Penske said:

So what we are saying is Gute and LaFleur have boats…

[Chili]

Does anyone have the Packers athletic measurement thresholds for cornerbacks on hand?

Edit: Just looking at the Packers cornerback drafting history under TT. It was shockingly bad. He had FA and undrafted gems to bail him out of trouble.

Edited April 24, 2022 by Chili

[Leader]

Jake Morley -  Top 100(ish) Faves: 2 each - I’ll start

WR: Pickens, Watson
TE: Woods, Okonkwo
RB: Cook, Hall
OL: Zion, Strange
IDL: Johnson, Hall
EDGE: Karloftis, Ebeiketie
ILB: Anderson, Muma
CB: Gordon, Stingley
S: Cine, Pitre