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43 minutes ago, Jroc04 said:

If our OL plays like they can, we’re going to be at least middle of the road offensively. Maybe top 10-12. Defensively we have some things to figure out. It really hinges on our pass rush. Which I just don’t see being good. 

Ya if the offense can stay healthy, we should have a solid OL and tons of speed everywhere. Hurts has 0 excuses to not at least look competent.

I expect the D to be one of the worst in the league. Gannon has been some pitiful talent outside of a few players. Our LB and DB's will rank towards the bottom of the league and our pass rushers are just mediocre. If Gannon can make this group look just competent I will be WILDLY impressed. I am excited to see more blitzing and creativity though... just anything other than line up, zero disguise defense that just tries to beat you one on one.

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5 hours ago, EagleBlueDon said:

Why don't you see the pass rush being good?

I don’t like Barnett really at all. I actually do like Sweat but will he get enough snaps? He should be getting them over DB. BG is another year older. I don’t see him keeping up a strong pace all year. Still like Cox but don’t expect him to be as dominate as he’s been in years passed. I’m optimistic about Hargrave but until I’ve seen it, I’ll doubt it. There’s just too many questions. We rely too much on pocket collapse. And there’s times where the DTs, even really good ones, just get neutralized. Just don’t see enough to be excited about. I think they’ll be average at best. And our secondary is going to need them to be good at least. It’s going to lead to a defensive blowup. Bye BG, Fletch, Slay, etc. 

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4 hours ago, Jroc04 said:

I don’t like Barnett really at all. I actually do like Sweat but will he get enough snaps? He should be getting them over DB. BG is another year older. I don’t see him keeping up a strong pace all year. Still like Cox but don’t expect him to be as dominate as he’s been in years passed. I’m optimistic about Hargrave but until I’ve seen it, I’ll doubt it. There’s just too many questions. We rely too much on pocket collapse. And there’s times where the DTs, even really good ones, just get neutralized. Just don’t see enough to be excited about. I think they’ll be average at best. And our secondary is going to need them to be good at least. It’s going to lead to a defensive blowup. Bye BG, Fletch, Slay, etc. 

Really just depends how Cox and Graham hold up. If they decline because of age this season then the pass rush is in trouble. If they still play at a fairly high level then it could be towards the best in the league. Hargrave finished last season really strong, Sweat keeps getting better, then hopefully a rookie or two can add some solid play. Actually blitzing could make the group look better this year too. 

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11 hours ago, Jroc04 said:

I don’t like Barnett really at all. I actually do like Sweat but will he get enough snaps? He should be getting them over DB. BG is another year older. I don’t see him keeping up a strong pace all year. Still like Cox but don’t expect him to be as dominate as he’s been in years passed. I’m optimistic about Hargrave but until I’ve seen it, I’ll doubt it. There’s just too many questions. We rely too much on pocket collapse. And there’s times where the DTs, even really good ones, just get neutralized. Just don’t see enough to be excited about. I think they’ll be average at best. And our secondary is going to need them to be good at least. It’s going to lead to a defensive blowup. Bye BG, Fletch, Slay, etc. 

This seems more like a worst case scenario than anything. I think the trio of DB, BG and Sweat is very solid. And the DT group got better this off season by investing draft capital there as well as having Ridgeway back. Remember this defense was third in the league in sacks last year. Then you gotta factor in the new defense we're going to run with the line games we're expected to play, and also the pre and post snap disguise Gannon will employ should lead to the QB holding onto the ball a tad longer in theory.

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3 hours ago, EagleBlueDon said:

This seems more like a worst case scenario than anything. I think the trio of DB, BG and Sweat is very solid. And the DT group got better this off season by investing draft capital there as well as having Ridgeway back. Remember this defense was third in the league in sacks last year. Then you gotta factor in the new defense we're going to run with the line games we're expected to play, and also the pre and post snap disguise Gannon will employ should lead to the QB holding onto the ball a tad longer in theory.

I know a lot of folks are really high on Gannon but I think we need to temper expectations for someone who has never called played and has really only been a position coach for 3 seasons. 

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34 minutes ago, Scalamania said:

I know a lot of folks are really high on Gannon but I think we need to temper expectations for someone who has never called played and has really only been a position coach for 3 seasons. 

I'm just excited because it's not Doug and Jim, nowehere ot go but up.

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12 minutes ago, Danger said:

I'm just excited because it's not Doug and Jim, nowehere ot go but up.

That's fair. I'm also excited to have some new faces running the show but I think some of the expectations for Gannon and his defense are unrealistic. 

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5 minutes ago, Scalamania said:

That's fair. I'm also excited to have some new faces running the show but I think some of the expectations for Gannon and his defense are unrealistic. 

Especially with DB's and LB's we gave him. If he can make this defense not look completely awful that is a win.

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3 hours ago, Scalamania said:

I know a lot of folks are really high on Gannon but I think we need to temper expectations for someone who has never called played and has really only been a position coach for 3 seasons. 

Hearing that we'll be disguising and running line games are reasons alone to be excited.

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16 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said:

Hearing that we'll be disguising and running line games are reasons alone to be excited.

I hope so much that that is the case. It was so annoying to see a LB or DB show blitz and show the back end coverage with too much time on the playclock. The opposing QB/coach were able to get out of good plays all the time.  Any coverage/blitz disguising, d-line stunting, exotic blitzes/zone blitzes and multiple front looks would all be a nice change of pace. 

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