incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: Realistically plot a timeline. Fant is gone before he matters huh? 3 years remaining on a rookie contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: huh? 3 years remaining on a rookie contract... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, cannondale said: 2 3 (5th year option exists) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: 3 (5th year option exists) I haven't researched it yet, but heard from many people that the 5th year option is no longer a bargain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, cannondale said: I haven't researched it yet, but heard from many people that the 5th year option is no longer a bargain It was ~$5.5 million for a TE this year Team has option. It's extremely valuable for teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: It was ~$5.5 million for a TE this year Team has option. It's extremely valuable for teams. Still extremely valuable with a guy like Jaire or K. Clark or a QB. A TE ? Meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman5252 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I'd do it for 3 first worth of players. With how he plays, I could see him breaking in the wrong situation. Send him and Tonyan to Denver (where he won't win a SB) for Juedy, Fant, and 2 1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, cannondale said: Still extremely valuable with a guy like Jaire or K. Clark or a QB. A TE ? Meh. yes. unquestionably a 5th year option is still extremely valuable with a TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, incognito_man said: yes. unquestionably a 5th year option is still extremely valuable with a TE. I disagree. And that aside, other than being able to say "go Fant" the Packers aren't going anywhere in 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cannondale said: I disagree. And that aside, other than being able to say "go Fant" the Packers aren't going anywhere in 2021 "Players aren't valuable in a trade" Yes they are "Look at the timeline, Fant has 2 years" Fant has 3 years "5th year options aren't a bargain" 5th year option for a TE is a bargain at $5.5 million "Packers aren't going anywhere in 2021" Dude...what the hell lol. I just spent less time getting my toddler to focus on her days of the week! "oh look - a blue car!" It's ok to admit you were wrong, ya know Edited May 5, 2021 by incognito_man 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, incognito_man said: "Players aren't valuable in a trade" Yes they are "Look at the timeline, Fant has 2 years" Fant has 3 years "5th year options aren't a bargain" 5th year option for a TE is a bargain at $5.5 million "Packers aren't going anywhere in 2021" Dude...what the hell lol. I just spent less time getting my toddler to focus on her days of the week! "oh look - a blue car!" It's ok to admit you were wrong, ya know #1 you dont want to go there #2 It's your OPINION that I'm wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, cannondale said: #1 you dont want to go there #2 It's your OPINION that I'm wrong lol yes, it's just my opinion that 5th year options exist and that Hayden Hurst's was $5.5 million. i am very famous because google shares my opinions on millions of web pages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: lol yes, it's just my opinion that 5th year options exist and that Hayden Hurst's was $5.5 million. i am very famous because google shares my opinions on millions of web pages! When did I say the 5th year option doesn't exist ?? Every argument you make is 1/2 trolling. Instead of threatening to block me, actually do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, cannondale said: When did I say the 5th year option doesn't exist ?? Every argument you make is 1/2 trolling. Instead of threatening to block me, actually do it you said it was only an opinion that you were wrong I twice corrected your factual errors, but you can't admit you were wrong even after that. You instead try to say it's only an opinion. It is not an opinion that YOUR opinion was based upon incorrect facts. You refuse to reconsider your erroneously arrived-at opinion even after someone (me) took the time to look into it FOR you. Why couldn't you have spent the 30 seconds to google it? Which is, whatever, fine - I don't research 100% of things I comment on here either. But I do most of them. But even after being factually corrected you decide NOT to reconsider your now-cemented opinion (which was based on misinformation), but preferred to (1) move the goalposts until a conversation about the value of a 5th year option for a TE devolved into your paltry conclusion "well GB won't do anything in 2021 anyway". Which is a real headscratcher because it doesn't make any sense in any context of the conversation anyway. And (2) try and delude yourself (and readers) into thinking that it was merely an opinion that you were wrong when it is clear to any rational reader you are demonstrably factually wrong. Why do that? “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -Asimov 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannondale Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, incognito_man said: you said it was only an opinion that you were wrong I twice corrected your factual errors, but you can't admit you were wrong even after that. You instead try to say it's only an opinion. It is not an opinion that YOUR opinion was based upon incorrect facts. You refuse to reconsider your erroneously arrived-at opinion even after someone (me) took the time to look into it FOR you. Why couldn't you have spent the 30 seconds to google it? Which is, whatever, fine - I don't research 100% of things I comment on here either. But I do most of them. But even after being factually corrected you decide NOT to reconsider your now-cemented opinion (which was based on misinformation), but preferred to (1) move the goalposts until a conversation about the value of a 5th year option for a TE devolved into your paltry conclusion "well GB won't do anything in 2021 anyway". Which is a real headscratcher because it doesn't make any sense in any context of the conversation anyway. And (2) try and delude yourself (and readers) into thinking that it was merely an opinion that you were wrong when it is clear to any rational reader you are demonstrably factually wrong. Why do that? “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” -Asimov Like I'm gonna read that. I stand by my original opinion. Trading for players in not good value - especially when you consider the timeline. You're a troll. You trolled my height weight in the Van Lanen thread, you were the ultimate Capers troll for years, and you tried trolling now with the 5th year option comment. I get it - its your schtick. Do what you do best. Edited May 5, 2021 by cannondale 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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