Beck Bristow Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 10 hours ago, theJ said: Wow, Bengals really going to screw up this Jessie Bates thing, aren't they? So negative. Plenty of time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted September 7, 2021 Author Share Posted September 7, 2021 Worst case scenario we franchise him the next two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 2 hours ago, Beck Bristow said: So negative. Plenty of time here. I think the window is gone. They broke camp, first game is Sunday. They won't get it done once they start the tag game. It's rare for any team to get a deal done once they start using the franchise tag. Odds say in a few years, he'll be gone. 1 hour ago, THE DUKE said: Worst case scenario we franchise him the next two years I think they'll tag him once, maybe twice. And then he'll be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 9/7/2021 at 8:08 AM, Beck Bristow said: So negative. Plenty of time here. They screwed it up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carson4MVP Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/12/2021 at 7:39 AM, theJ said: They screwed it up Yep. Now he’s complaining publicly too. Not getting done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 9 hours ago, Carson4MVP said: Yep. Now he’s complaining publicly too. Not getting done Which is a shame. The price is only going to go up. Not sure what the Bengals we’re trying to achieve with this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Johnny Nix said: Which is a shame. The price is only going to go up. Not sure what the Bengals we’re trying to achieve with this one. I really can't get in their head on this one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky151 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Bates doesn't deserve Jamal Adams money but does deserve Justin Simmons or Budda Baker money. Team should have paid him before Adams raised the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, sparky151 said: Bates doesn't deserve Jamal Adams money but does deserve Justin Simmons or Budda Baker money. Team should have paid him before Adams raised the bar. I agree with your latter point. The former, i'd say that the number is immaterial. You can't afford to let a guy like this go. Or even be unhappy. They should have just paid the man whatever it took. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theJ Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 And i say that because they have a crap ton of money, and have a history (short, albeit), of overpaying FA's. Overpay your own guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INbengalfan Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 17 hours ago, theJ said: And i say that because they have a crap ton of money, and have a history (short, albeit), of overpaying FA's. Overpay your own guy. The problem is they didn't have the foresight to set it up to allow for the offensive stars to all get paid down the road. It was simple really. Let's use 4 year/$60 million extension as the deal. Give him a $20 mill ROSTER bonus now, and add it to his deal this year without raising the contract. That leaves $40 mill to be divided up relatively evenly over the next four years, but they still could have gone a bit heavier, say $12-13 mill so they had more available cap space down the road when it's time to pay Jonah, Higgins, Burrow and Chase to mega extensions in that order. The roster bonus allows them to take the cap hit this year instead of spreading it out, like a signing bonus would. The front office is being somewhat cheap on this. The price to tag him will be around 12 mill next year, so the team figures they are saving money long term for the cap. Which is kinda stupid, given they don't have that many holes moving forward after this year. And a couple of free agents and a good draft class can fill those. If anything, they should consider moving on from Waynes and slide that money straight to Bates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Bristow Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Man, we got to draft corners next year. And Offensive line. So I don't know what kind of numbers have been discussed with Bates, but I'd really like to see him locked up. Hopefully it' something they are working towards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 We desperately need a rd 1 CB talent, and unless Waynes comes back and has a helluva season, then just cut your losses and spend that money elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 who the heck is calling Tee Higgins "Ochocinco 2.0" ok they wore the same number, but they are so different as receivers lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 3 hours ago, Danger said: who the heck is calling Tee Higgins "Ochocinco 2.0" ok they wore the same number, but they are so different as receivers lmao. I haven’t heard anyone call him that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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