Trentwannabe Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 18 minutes ago, minutemancl said: Also, gotta love how this thread was 5 pages of fat jokes, then Benjamin's head coach tells him to lose weight, he comes in even heavier so gets cut, then Judge is the bad guy. These are the first negative comments we've ever heard about Judge, and they are from a jilted, unmotivated tryout who felt like he was promised an opportunity because he knows the general manager. Unfortunately for Judge I think he’s an easy target to blame because of the coaching tree he comes from. Benjamin saying Judge is a coach who will never win a Super Bowl is hilariously obtuse on his part. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmen Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Unlike Mac, Benjamin is perennially stuck in the bulk stage of bulk and cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: no clearly not. he's a big man. 6'5 and muscular. idc the excuse - it's a ridiculous request to ask someone to cut 15 pounds in two months when their current weight is within the acceptable range of the position in the first place. there is no scenario where this is a realistic request... if Joe Judge was serious about it, he's out of touch. if he wasn't, he was setting Kelvin up to fail on purpose. Pick your poison. I dont know much about Judge and cant really comment on him either way. Have any other players had issues with him? I do find your defense of Benjamin a bit odd, though. This is a guy with well established issues in regards to his weight and conditioning. Benjamin has the talent to be a decent WR and maybe TE. Its his lack of discipline that has held him back and clearly still does. Beyoynd that, even if they asked him to drop 15 lbs....maybe they had a reason for it. 265 can be carried in different ways. What was his BMI at 265? Maybe it was more of an effort to get him into better shape overall. The whole "setting him up for failure" argument would make more sense if he dropped at least 5 or 6 lbs for camp and they still cut him. But no no no....he gained 3 lbs and clearly made no real effort. Bottom line....Joe Judge COULD be a terrible coach. I am not defending him or attacking him on this matter. All Im saying is that Kelvin Benjamin is notorious for his lack of effort, and he has no one to blame fir his situation but himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Gmen said: Unlike Mac, Benjamin is perennially stuck in the bulk stage of bulk and cut. Benjamin to Joe Judge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 25 minutes ago, 43M said: I dont know much about Judge and cant really comment on him either way. Have any other players had issues with him? I do find your defense of Benjamin a bit odd, though. This is a guy with well established issues in regards to his weight and conditioning. Benjamin has the talent to be a decent WR and maybe TE. Its his lack of discipline that has held him back and clearly still does. Beyoynd that, even if they asked him to drop 15 lbs....maybe they had a reason for it. 265 can be carried in different ways. What was his BMI at 265? Maybe it was more of an effort to get him into better shape overall. The whole "setting him up for failure" argument would make more sense if he dropped at least 5 or 6 lbs for camp and they still cut him. But no no no....he gained 3 lbs and clearly made no real effort. Bottom line....Joe Judge COULD be a terrible coach. I am not defending him or attacking him on this matter. All Im saying is that Kelvin Benjamin is notorious for his lack of effort, and he has no one to blame fir his situation but himself. I already have a low opinion of Benjamin. I just found it telling about Judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) On 7/28/2021 at 11:02 PM, TheKillerNacho said: the stealing food thing was an obvious joke... idk why youd ask a 265 lb WR to come in at 250 to play TE either. Nor why you wouldnt at least let him practice. he was a fat 265. if a player doesnt make weight and them whines about the weight requirement after the fact, its not a good omen for his work ethic going forward Edited August 1, 2021 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Joe Judge can't win a SB, Kelvin?... 3× Super Bowl champion (XLIX, LI, LIII) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Was it Kelvin Benjamin who a Buffalo QB asked to do some extra reps, and he just said 'No'? lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilenFroggen Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 He got the benefit of the doubt (from some people anyway) after losing his mom while he was still in Carolina. They were close and many of his negative behaviors either began or intensified around that time. That pain never really goes away, but at this point it's clear that the guy is just a jerk. Now I wonder if he was always that way or if he was radically and permanently changed by it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonserinNC Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 All jokes aside, I'm kind of surprised he wasn't at least a camp TE.....good talent but i guess no work ethic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said: Was it Kelvin Benjamin who a Buffalo QB asked to do some extra reps, and he just said 'No'? lol Yes. Lmao 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchFalcon Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Should have signed Tebow. Kelvin Benjamin seems to me to be the type to end up on this news section within a few years and it won't be about a comeback.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Judge went 6-10 and cried when the Eagles did not give him the participation trophy. He's got a long way to go. Benjamin is just a 90th best on the roster fat loser. Don't hold your breath for other teams to reach out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon Ducks Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Judge was the one who had that cringe y press conference when hired, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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