NudeTayne Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 3 hours ago, mtmmike said: Just to illustrate The cost with qbs If we sign Baker to 160,000,000 Million dollar extension with the 25 million Owed to him next year he would average 37,000,000 per year for 5 years The wait in see group The franchise tag for next year is 44,000,000 That means you have to let Clowney walk. If you sign Mayfield now you can keep everyone for 5 years. 2nd point Baker takes us to the superbowl We would have to pay 225,000,000 To keep him. Than all the wait and see people would be saying nobody is worth that much and let there super bowl qb walk Then we would have a super bowl team with a qb that was drafted at 32. 3rd point there is only 3 elite qb Brady Mahomes Rodgers Everyone else is average. (but also, spot on as usual, Mike) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Excellent post wish I was that smary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 7 hours ago, DaWg_LB. said: Wow, how the opinions in here have waffled.......not calling anybody out, but when Baker was breaking Peyton Mannings Record as a Rookie, and Healthy and without OBJ, he completed 63% of his passes for 3,563 26td's, 8 Ints, and a Playoff Win in Pittsburgh.....folks were signing praises....NOW some of these same folks are waffling on he's not a Franchise QB. With Dropped Passes, some quesitonable play calling and a Broken Shoulder....he's still completing over 65% of his passes and almost a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.... Baker.....I have believed in you since you walked on TWICE at D1 schools and make other NFL QB's TRANSFER......I dont know why the Media and Some Browns Fans, like to condemn you after each game you have where you dont throw 5 TD's........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 7 hours ago, DaWg_LB. said: Wow, how the opinions in here have waffled.......not calling anybody out, but when Baker was breaking Peyton Mannings Record as a Rookie, and Healthy and without OBJ, he completed 63% of his passes for 3,563 26td's, 8 Ints, and a Playoff Win in Pittsburgh.....folks were signing praises....NOW some of these same folks are waffling on he's not a Franchise QB. With Dropped Passes, some quesitonable play calling and a Broken Shoulder....he's still completing over 65% of his passes and almost a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.... Baker.....I have believed in you since you walked on TWICE at D1 schools and make other NFL QB's TRANSFER......I dont know why the Media and Some Browns Fans, like to condemn you after each game you have where you dont throw 5 TD's........ You’re a better man than me. I’d just call their collective ***** out. I can’t stand the what have you done for me lately people. Wherever the wind blows. I haven’t **** in minute better get off the pot. The whole damn team is jekyll and hyde right now. And it’s frustrating. It’s Baker, it’s the defense, it’s coaching it’s all of the above right now. But Baker takes the ****. Btw for you aholes that don’t think his injuries are affecting his game get a damned clue. I know you won’t acknowledge the times he has looked pretty danged good as it doesn’t fit your agenda. But he played pretty danged good last year and all the way up until when? When he was injured. Mhhhmm hhhmm. Oh and when the objpdq **** happened. Oh and where were you *******s when Baker kicked the bengals *****? ******* Eeyores 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Yeah that’s a rant 😤 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: You’re a better man than me. I’d just call their collective ***** out. I can’t stand the what have you done for me lately people. Wherever the wind blows. I haven’t **** in minute better get off the pot. The whole damn team is jekyll and hyde right now. And it’s frustrating. It’s Baker, it’s the defense, it’s coaching it’s all of the above right now. But Baker takes the ****. Btw for you aholes that don’t think his injuries are affecting his game get a damned clue. I know you won’t acknowledge the times he has looked pretty danged good as it doesn’t fit your agenda. But he played pretty danged good last year and all the way up until when? When he was injured. Mhhhmm hhhmm. Oh and when the objpdq **** happened. Oh and where were you *******s when Baker kicked the bengals *****? ******* Eeyores Feel better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgpoun8017 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 How I see @Bonanza23 reading his rant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawgX Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dawgpoun8017 said: How I see @Bonanza23 reading his rant I imagine Bonanza has tools in his trunk just like Dennis. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Should I start doubting and hating on Baker to see if somehow that makes him perform well again? It's worked before, and I'm happy to have egg on my face if it means the chance that he stops sucking. (See what I did there?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, MWil23 said: Should I start doubting and hating on Baker to see if somehow that makes him perform well again? It's worked before, and I'm happy to have egg on my face if it means the chance that he stops sucking. (See what I did there?) And we're happy to pelt you with eggs, so everybody wins 🤷♂️. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I've been harping on it for awhile now....it's consistency that is lacking! It's trying to figure out how much of that stems from injuries, different systems, or lack of work put in by him. He appears to say the right things, and preach what should be done, but is he actually doing everything in his power to get better? There is nothing to say yay or nay to that. Only he knows the answer to that question. The options of improving that position are limited, so I think we still need to give it time....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, big poppa pump said: I've been harping on it for awhile now....it's consistency that is lacking! It's trying to figure out how much of that stems from injuries, different systems, or lack of work put in by him. He appears to say the right things, and preach what should be done, but is he actually doing everything in his power to get better? There is nothing to say yay or nay to that. Only he knows the answer to that question. The options of improving that position are limited, so I think we still need to give it time....... Consistency and big time throws. Again, is it system, talent, injuries, him trying to limit turnovers, idk, but he’s making some really basic throws this season it seems. For a player with his arm talent I’d really expect more shots down the field and attempts to stretch the defense. All he’s throwing is a bunch of short to intermediate stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeHDruiD Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 They need to get him weapons soon, that's gotta be way up the priority list 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Consistency and big time throws. Again, is it system, talent, injuries, him trying to limit turnovers, idk, but he’s making some really basic throws this season it seems. For a player with his arm talent I’d really expect more shots down the field and attempts to stretch the defense. All he’s throwing is a bunch of short to intermediate stuff. Devil's advocate: It's clear that the coaches don't trust him, because his entire career in the NFL, he's struggled consistently making throws that are dropback related instead of playaction related, where he excels. Granted, our weapons on the outside are pretty poor as a whole. Juice looks washed, DPJ is dinged up, Higgins is trash...but Year 2 he sucked (I know, I know, Freddie and scheme, I know) and for 1/2 of Year 3 he sucked, all while he really found his groove with boots and playaction passes. Again, he's hurt, he's lacking quality weapons, etc., but this is a body of work major concern for me, especially in tandem with how bad he does under pressure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDawg Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 @Bonanza23 @bosko1616 ‘s glistening face is shining down on your rant in approval rn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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