mission27 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Imagine Derek Henry has 290 yards in a game and is on the verge of breaking the single game rushing record and the other team pulls all their defensive backs and replaces them with defensive linemen on the next drive Would that help stop him from breaking the rushing record? Probably But is that a good strategy? Obviously not, they're going to give up a 80 yard passing TD on one play It would just be a BS bush league tactic to avoid someone breaking a record against them, not a good faith effort to compete and win the game Bunting for a hit down several runs in a no-hitter is similar flea shenanigans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, mission27 said: Imagine Derek Henry has 290 yards in a game and is on the verge of breaking the single game rushing record and the other team pulls all their defensive backs and replaces them with defensive linemen on the next drive Would that help stop him from breaking the rushing record? Probably But is that a good strategy? Obviously not, they're going to give up a 80 yard passing TD on one play It would just be a BS bush league tactic to avoid someone breaking a record against them, not a good faith effort to compete and win the game Bunting for a hit down several runs in a no-hitter is similar flea shenanigans thats a fair analogy, honestly. but rather than getting upset over henry's personal achievement, the titans should just go ahead and throw that deep ball. the game isnt about one player's personal achievement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Turnobili said: thats a fair analogy, honestly. but rather than getting upset over henry's personal achievement, the titans should just go ahead and throw that deep ball. the game isnt about one player's personal achievement If it is under 2 minutes left and the Titans are up 35 do you really think the game matters at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, mse326 said: If it is under 2 minutes left and the Titans are up 35 do you really think the game matters at that point? baseball is different re: time limits, though. get the feeling people will have this complaint when a pitcher w/ a running PG has a 5-0 lead in the 8th, etc. its not like these complaints only happen with a monster 13-0 lead with 2 outs in the 9th or something Edited August 23, 2021 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Turnobili said: baseball is different re: time limits, though. get the feeling people will have this complaint when a pitcher w/ a running PG has a 5-0 lead in the 8th, etc. its not like these complaints only happen with a monster 13-0 lead with 2 outs in the 9th or something So basically you haven't read any of our posts on this that have consistently maintained that if the game is still on the line there is no problem that it is only when the game is out of reach. Stop arguing with your straw man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnobili Posted August 23, 2021 Author Share Posted August 23, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, mse326 said: So basically you haven't read any of our posts on this that have consistently maintained that if the game is still on the line there is no problem that it is only when the game is out of reach. Stop arguing with your straw man. this doesnt address my point, that "out of reach" in some sports like football is really a mathematical question of time... whereas in baseball its much less defined due to the indefinite length of games. we've seen teams come back from 6+ runs in the 9th inning alone, and you dont have to look that far back to find such games. Edited August 23, 2021 by Turnobili Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Turnobili said: this doesnt address my point, that "out of reach" in some sports like football is really a mathematical question of time... whereas in baseball its much less defined due to the indefinite length of games. we've seen teams come back from 6+ runs in the 9th inning alone, and you dont have to look that far back to find such games. You don't have a point. We have said repeatedly if the game is still in the balance you do what you have to do to win. If that means bunting then so be it. So if you think the game is still in the balance then bunt away, that doesn't at all counter what we have said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/22/2021 at 11:49 PM, mission27 said: Bunting for a hit down several runs in a no-hitter is similar flea shenanigans Patently false. If they are down several runs, then there is even more incentive to get runners on base by whatever the best means necessary. If they have a shift on and a bunt is an easy single, than that is too their advantage, because if the hitter is swinging for power then they will still need more runs even if they hit an extra base hit. Do you want Mike Trout taking that bunt hit? No, probably not, but if you have a lesser hitter, just getting on base is going to help them in their quest for multiple runs, especially if the next batter is a better power hitter. Don't want to give up a bunt base hit? Then don't position your defense where a bunt can lead to a base hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 hour ago, THE DUKE said: Patently false. If they are down several runs, then there is even more incentive to get runners on base by whatever the best means necessary. If they have a shift on and a bunt is an easy single, than that is too their advantage, because if the hitter is swinging for power then they will still need more runs even if they hit an extra base hit. Do you want Mike Trout taking that bunt hit? No, probably not, but if you have a lesser hitter, just getting on base is going to help them in their quest for multiple runs, especially if the next batter is a better power hitter. Don't want to give up a bunt base hit? Then don't position your defense where a bunt can lead to a base hit. I agree. Define "several runs"? If it's like 3 or 4, well then the tying run might be on deck. Is it 8 or 9? Then maybe shenanigans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DUKE Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: I agree. Define "several runs"? If it's like 3 or 4, well then the tying run might be on deck. Is it 8 or 9? Then maybe shenanigans. I've seen more than one 9 run inning in MLB before. The game is literally almost never out of reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, THE DUKE said: I've seen more than one 9 run inning in MLB before. The game is literally almost never out of reach. I'm with you. I just see a huge difference too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Where is players mock-booing the entire fan base fall within the vast book of unwritten rules? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 hours ago, malibuspeedrace said: Where is players mock-booing the entire fan base fall within the vast book of unwritten rules? That was one of the most pathetic things i have ever heard a player say. Baez and Lindor should be ashamed. Mental midgets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drew39k Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 25 minutes ago, bigbadbuff said: That was one of the most pathetic things i have ever heard a player say. Baez and Lindor should be ashamed. Mental midgets. As a mets fan, it's hugely insulting for the players to behave that way. They need to be benched. It's not like those players have contributing to winning anyway. The mets are somewhere around 7-20 since adding Baez. He is hitting 220 or so. When a team is playing embarrisingly bad baseball and choke away a division lead you are going to get booed. Don't like it? Play better. To turn around and get salty at the fans is a great way to lose fans and drop attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibuspeedrace Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Think the GM would have the balls to send one of them to AAA for a bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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