Chargers Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Bearerofnews said: PFF still ignorantly hating on Herbert. They are going to learn the hard way. Same clowns that said he was a sure fire bust and couldn't play football at all. If Herbert lights it up this season and PFF doesn't have him top 10 then all hope is gone for them. For now #15 is a safe pick. I don't think they had Luck or RG3 in the top 10 after their seasons either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-quarterback-rankings-analytical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Thought this was a good info piece for this exercise. Assuming @BayRaider ever completes it..... Pass EPA, PFF and ANY/A should be the three metrics primarily used when judging a QB and predicting how they will do in future years. Final Verdict / TL;DR Top Tier EPA: Most important, not stable, fine predictor, best process/formula PASS EPA: Important, more stable, good predictor, great process/formula QBR: Very Important, not stable, fine predictor, great process/formula PFF Grade: Important, most stable, best predictor, great process/formula ANY/A: Very Important, more stable, good predictor, decent process/formula https://mfootballanalytics.com/2020/04/06/which-qb-stats-are-the-most-important/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Matts4313 said: https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-quarterback-rankings-analytical "passers with 1,000 career plays" -- includes Herbert at 669, Burrow at 466, Tua at 335, and Lock at 672 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Looking forward to seeing what Hurts can do this year. Even if we suck it'll be fun seeing him and if he can progress on a week to week basis and show consistency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 On 6/17/2021 at 7:41 PM, EagleBlueDon said: Looking forward to seeing what Hurts can do this year. Even if we suck it'll be fun seeing him and if he can progress on a week to week basis and show consistency. One thing I respect him for is his ability to pick up very different offenses. Dude has tenacity and work ethic for sure. I can't justifiably say he'll be a star in 2021 but I thought he played well last year given the circumstances, and with his history should only get better. The Eagles might wind up sucking, but my money is on Hurts being a bright spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 These lists are funny. Honestly, rookies who haven't played yet should be their own class. Its funny placing certain rookies above other rookies without them even playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTRUTH Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Here’s the definitive list. At least up until that dividing line. Kinda have to project the rookies a bit. 1.Patrick Mahomes 2.Tom Brady 3.Russell Wilson 4.Deshaun Watson 5.Aaron Rodgers 6.Josh Allen 7.Dak Prescott 8.Justin Herbert 9.Matthew Stafford 10.Kyler Murray 11.Joe Burrow 12.Lamar Jackson 13.Ryan Tannehill 14.Trevor Lawrence 15.Matt Ryan 16.Derek Carr 17.Kirk Cousins 18.Jimmy Garoppolo —————— 19.Baker Mayfield 20.Ben Roethlisberger 21.Ryan Fitzpatrick 22.Justin Fields 23.Carson Wentz 24.Zach Wilson 25.Jared Goff 26.Mitch Trubisky 27.Daniel Jones 28.Sam Darnold 29.Tyrod Taylor 30.Jameis Winston 31.Cam Newton 32.Jalen Hurts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Nix Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1. Mahomes 2. Rodgers 3. Watson 4. R Wilson 5. Brady 6. Allen 7. Prescott 8. Stafford 9. Ryan 10. Herbert 11. Jackson 12. Tannehill 13. Murray 14. Cousins 15. Burrow 16. Carr 17. Mayfield 18. Roethlisberger 19. Garapolo 20. Lawrence 21. Fitzpatrick 22. Wentz 23. Tagovailoa 24. Dalton/Fields 25. Jones 26. Bridgewater/ Lock 27. Newton/ Jones 28. Winston 29. Hurts 30. Darnold 31. Goff 32. Z Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 ESPN put out the annual top 10 ranking from players, coaches and executives https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31800661/ranking-nfl-top-10-quarterbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks Stafford is just too high for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 39 minutes ago, SBLIII said: ESPN put out the annual top 10 ranking from players, coaches and executives https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31800661/ranking-nfl-top-10-quarterbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks Stafford is just too high for me. You going to quote the list? Its behind a paywall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trentwannabe Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Matts4313 said: You going to quote the list? Its behind a paywall. Mahomes Rodgers Brady Wilson Allen Stafford Prescott Jackson Herbert Murray That is their list in order. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 35 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said: Mahomes Rodgers Brady Wilson Allen Stafford Prescott Jackson HerbertMurray That is their list in order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Trentwannabe said: Mahomes Rodgers Brady Wilson Allen Stafford Prescott Jackson Herbert Murray That is their list in order. Yep. Watson left off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 Warren Sharp has it 1 Mahomes 2 Rodgers 3 Brady/Wilson 5 Dak 6 Lamar 7 Allen 8 Stafford 9 Herbert 10 Murray Murray wouldn't be in my top 10 but he is on both lists here. Watson being left off probably means he doesn't play. I would have Herbert ahead of Stafford and flip Allen and Dak. Tannehill would be in my top 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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