Sad People Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Injuries and ego. He got a ridiculous amount of coverage for that one marvelous catch. Then I'd see him miss routine catches trying to make them flashy one-hander's instead of focusing on just catching the d*** ball. My own opinion i dont think he was ever considered an elite WR just got blown outta proportion from that one handed catch that you mentioned. Obviously still good but never a true WR1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 5 hours ago, JBURGE said: Kalil is a good one... though IIRC he wasn't great for long. Was it only his first year or first two? Yep. Great his first year, average year two and just a mess after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 On 5/30/2021 at 7:23 PM, Sugashane said: Maybe you were thinking Haynesworth? That's exactly who I was thinking of. I mixed up my fat guys. Sorry to all the Willfork fans out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Michael Clayton for Tampa Bay always shocked me. It made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Brandon Marshall had a dramatic drop off. Had a 1500 yard, 14TD season with 109 catches (63% catch rate) and then turned in a sub-800 yard 3 TD season with a 46% catch rate. Then goes two years and gets 1 TD and 29 catches total. For once a WR didn't die in CHI, but after he left us. Larry Johnson came in and looked like a monster for a few years but started acting like an idiot off the field. Bounced around to be JAG. LT had a major drop, but to be fair he also had a stretch of all-time production too. His drop was still dramatic when he went to the Jets. Went from HOF great, then had a year as a mediocre starter, then a year as a back up/afterthought. Damn shame to see him go out having Shonn Greene get over triple his carries and Joe McKnight getting over half as many as he did. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 38 minutes ago, Sugashane said: Larry Johnson came in and looked like a monster for a few years but started acting like an idiot off the field. Bounced around to be JAG. Larry Johnson is the poster boy on why you can't give a RB 400+ touches a year - bodies simply can't take that sort of usage and ever expect to come back. Johnson, Edgerrin James, Jamaal Anderson, Clinton Portis, Eddie George, Ricky Williams - once they got that 400+ season in, they collapsed and couldn't get back up for the rest of their careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 I mean, obviously Nnamdi Asomugha in Philly is a good one. Going from a man scheme to a zone scheme completely ruined that guy. There's a handful of kickers that went from great to awful, Blair Walsh being one of them, Greg Zuerlein being another. Billy Cundiff obviously being the king of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, ET80 said: Larry Johnson is the poster boy on why you can't give a RB 400+ touches a year - bodies simply can't take that sort of usage and ever expect to come back. Johnson, Edgerrin James, Jamaal Anderson, Clinton Portis, Eddie George, Ricky Williams - once they got that 400+ season in, they collapsed and couldn't get back up for the rest of their careers. Henry had 396 touches last year in the regular season and 21 in the postseason. Year prior he has 88 touches in the postseason and 321 touches in the regular season. That's back to back 400 touches and he didn't break down or fall off the cliff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, LinderFournette said: Henry had 396 touches last year in the regular season and 21 in the postseason. Year prior he has 88 touches in the postseason and 321 touches in the regular season. That's back to back 400 touches and he didn't break down or fall off the cliff I'm sure you'll find an exception in the 100+ years of pro football (and we really don't know what 2021 Derrick Henry looks like). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 David Johnson. Dude looked like he was going to be the premier dual threat RB in the league. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 36 minutes ago, ET80 said: I'm sure you'll find an exception in the 100+ years of pro football (and we really don't know what 2021 Derrick Henry looks like). I'm basing it off the fact he did 400 in the 2019 season and didn't seem to phase him last year and he actually increased his yards per carry. 400 doesn't seem to phase Generational backs like Henry and even Adrian Peterson. Ap had 400 touches and he has a decline in yards per attempt (his 2012 was an ungodly 6 yards a carry to a still very good 4.7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, lancerman said: David Johnson. Dude looked like he was going to be the premier dual threat RB in the league. Ray Rice, too. Even before his altercation with his Fiancee, he looked toast as a player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolmesPriest Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Patrick Mahomes had like 50tds his first season. Since then he ain't even broke 40. 👨👩👧👦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar12 Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 I know Vontae Davis retired mid game (lol) However he looked done at only 30. He even said he didn’t belong on the field with his teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 29 minutes ago, LinderFournette said: I'm basing it off the fact he did 400 in the 2019 season and didn't seem to phase him last year and he actually increased his yards per carry. 400 doesn't seem to phase Generational backs like Henry and even Adrian Peterson. Ap had 400 touches and he has a decline in yards per attempt (his 2012 was an ungodly 6 yards a carry to a still very good 4.7. 400 carries seems to be the death sentence (Larry Johnson, Eddie George, Jamal Anderson for example). There’s been plenty of RBs who’ve had multiple 400 touches and been productive (LT, Curtis Martin, Emmitt Smith to name a few). And that’s not including the guys who surpassed the 400 mark with a playoff run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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