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7 hours ago, Kirill said:

Want to get it on record: I have little faith in Hardman getting better as a WR. I think he's just mentally weak. And yes I haven't gotten over those muffed punts. 😆

Which Hardman? Do you mean the one when Sammy was playing or the one when Sammy was hurt?

There was a significant difference. In the six games Sammy was out and not counting week 17, Hardman had 20 targets, 15 catches and a very respectable 13.4 yds/tgt. When Sammy played, Hardman was 40 targets, 24 catches, 6.7 yds/tgt. He had a good game against Baltimore, 4 rec, 81 yds, but never topped 40 yds in any other game. 

Sammy is gone. The offense is getting a significant refit. With Sammy out, Hardman had more catches downfield. We have had Kelce on shorter routes, but have worked to beef up Clyde's role and added Gray and Powell. Even if we play a lot more short and intermediate throws, there are more hands to catch them. I envision Hardman to run more routes downfield than he was doing last season.

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PFF put out an article on "Achilles Heels", ie potential major issues for otherwise strong teams. The Chemistry of the Chiefs OL was one of them. Pride did an article responding. Both have good points. 
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-achilles-heel-five-teams-derail-2021-season
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/6/29/22555567/pff-calls-chiefs-offensive-line-chemistry-a-major-concern-for-2021

PFF's conclusion:

The impact that lack of cohesion has can be measured and is already one that oddsmakers in Las Vegas factor into the betting line for a game. On average, each additional offensive lineman a team doesn't carry over from the previous Week 1 is worth about seven-tenths of a point to the spread. For the Chiefs, that’s all five linemen.

In case your math skills are weak, that is more than a FG in the Vegas betting lines. Pride's response.

Given PFF's tendency to reduce every NFL discussion to a set of numbers, it’s fascinating to see Monson bring up a factor that essentially defies measurement: the unit cohesion of an offensive line. Don’t get me wrong, though: I think Monson is correct to identify it as a potential concern for the Chiefs. You can make a solid argument that the team’s offensive line problems in Super Bowl LV weren’t so much about depth as they were about making the season’s most drastic alteration to the line’s chemistry. It’s just surprising to see a PFF writer make such a point.

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3 hours ago, onejayhawk said:

Which Hardman? Do you mean the one when Sammy was playing or the one when Sammy was hurt?

There was a significant difference. In the six games Sammy was out and not counting week 17, Hardman had 20 targets, 15 catches and a very respectable 13.4 yds/tgt. When Sammy played, Hardman was 40 targets, 24 catches, 6.7 yds/tgt. He had a good game against Baltimore, 4 rec, 81 yds, but never topped 40 yds in any other game. 

Sammy is gone. The offense is getting a significant refit. With Sammy out, Hardman had more catches downfield. We have had Kelce on shorter routes, but have worked to beef up Clyde's role and added Gray and Powell. Even if we play a lot more short and intermediate throws, there are more hands to catch them. I envision Hardman to run more routes downfield than he was doing last season.

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Yea good point if Powell and gray are as advertised then Hardman won’t even need to get better anyways.

I trust Mahomes when he hypes guys up he’s pretty straightforward and honest. Which is part of why I don’t trust Hardman cause Mahomes hasn’t ever talked him up like that.

I wish Veach would’ve got DK Metcalf. We’d be the most stacked team of all time right now.

 

 

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Tyreek Hill has received additional notice as the best slot receiver in the league. He was separately chosen as #3 outside WR. They recently grade Travis Kelce the #2 TE.
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/06/kansas-city-chiefs-tyreek-hill-first-touchdown-wire-2021-slot-receiver-rankings/
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/08/kansas-city-chiefs-tyreek-hill-also-third-best-outside-receiver-in-nfl/

Thuney tagged as most likely new Pro Bowler. My pick for honors is Lucas Niang.
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/7/7/22566637/joe-thuney-picked-as-chiefs-most-likely-new-pro-bowl-player

Here is an article looking at the Mahomes contract after a year. it still looks like a bargain. 
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/06/kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-contract-extension-anniversary/

Speaking of Mahomes, he is developing a reputation as a philanthropist. 
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/06/kansas-city-chiefs-patrick-mahomes-foundation-usa-football-youth-football-clinics-grants-annuncement/

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This article compares Noah Gray to Evan Engram of the Giants, who recently was chosen as a top 10 TE by ESPN. While the article claims Gray and Engram are similar athletes, they aren't. What they are is the same size. That said, athleticism is not what drew attention to Noah Gray. It was his ability to gain separation from defenders. 
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/could-noah-gray-be-an-evan-engram-like-talent-with-chiefs/ar-AAMeNhK

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This article asks if anyone will replace Anthony Sherman this year, then talks about his fashion statements. What is a better question is whether we will see anyone lining up at FB this season. Last year, when Sherman was hurt, Kelce spent time in the backfield. Noah Gray played some FB at Duke. Either way you get a receiving threat who can block on the move. 
https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2021/07/20/kansas-city-chiefs-2021-training-camp-anthony-sherman-arrival-recap/

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PFF's new OL ranking put Chiefs in top 10. It's perhaps a bit premature, but 's hard to argue with the amount of talent. I am only quoting a portion of the long entry.
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-ranking-all-32-nfl-offensive-line-units-entering-2021-season

7. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

The biggest story of the offseason in Kansas City was the overhaul of the offensive line. The overhaul started with the releases of long-time tackles Eric Fisher and Mitchell Schwartz, who formed one of the best duos in the league.

The Chiefs traded for Ravens starting tackle Orlando Brown Jr., essentially giving up a first-rounder in a big exchange of picks. Brown has been a top tackle since being drafted in the third round in 2018, grading out at 77.8 overall in 2020, good for 26th among tackles. He’s improved every year and done his best work in pass protection, though there’s a big change in scheme coming from Baltimore’s run-heavy attack. ... The other big splash by the Chiefs was signing left guard Joe Thuney to a monster contract in free agency. Thuney has developed into one of the NFL's best guards, ranking in the top 10 in each of the past three years. 

Kansas City has also built up impressive depth, drafting guard Trey Smith in the sixth round this year and tackle Lucas Niang in the third round in 2020. Niang could be in the mix at right tackle.

After completely re-shaping their offensive line, the Chiefs now field one of the best combinations of high-upside starters and depth in the NFL. 

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This is a video review of our new LT, Orland Brown, JR. The Jr is important, because his dad played and he plays for his dad. While he is on the last year of his rookie contract, OBJr has made noises about re-signing if that is possible.
https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2021/7/22/22584273/orlando-brown-jr-film-deep-dive-chiefs-offense-left-tackle

The bottom line

At this point, it is clear the Chiefs gained a player of substantial value in Orlando Brown Jr. for 2021 and hopefully beyond. At just 25 years old, his prime playing years probably haven’t been seen yet. If (or when) the day comes that Brown is extended in Kansas City with a large contract, it will likely be well deserved.

In conjunction with the other offensive linemen added to the mix, Brown's Pro Bowl-caliber skill set creates some very high expectations in Kansas City. Ultimately, he is one piece of the puzzle that all needs to gel together to accomplish what the team is setting out to do — take it back.

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Whatever the reason, Clyde Edwards-Hellaire's fantasy stock is rising. Clyde had a solid rookie season, but not the sort of splash many fantasy players expected, much less hoped for. In Chiefs terms, they hoped for Priest Holmes II and expected a big improvement on Damien Williams. Ranking #22 was not well received.

In any event, Clyde's stock took a big hit, but appears to be recovering. The perceived improvement in run blocking seems to be a factor.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/clyde_edwards_helaires_fantasy_football_stock_is_rising/s1_16631_35446223

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