Forge Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Danger said: Antonio Brown has a good chance at winning it, especially if he can amass 491 more yards in 3 games. Very tall order, but he had over 200 in his last game so it's not impossible. Yeah, if he hits the 2k mark, I think he has a legit shot with the Steelers winning the division. I think a win against New England would be big in that regard as well (especially if he has a big game). I still think Brady is the favorite, and Wilson and Rivers will get some love, but I think it's Brady, with an outside shot on Brown if he hits those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianlewis16 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Stupid MVP award. 1. Brady 2. Brown 3. Wilson 612. Newton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Brady's crappy game last night definitely opens up the competition a bit to Wilson and Brown. Wilson didn't help himself out with his so-so game this weekend, but Brown certainly did. It would be nice to see him get serious consideration, in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 You guys discrediting Cam is hilarious. If Carolina wins out it would be against the Packers AND Falcons while adding to a resume of beating the Patriots at home and seemingly unstoppable Vikings team. The man wasn't even healthy through the first few weeks. Kelvin Benjamin got traded away and Olsen has been injured all year. Ryan Khalil wasn't healthy most of the year, etc. He's got a reasonable case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, MD4L said: You guys discrediting Cam is hilarious. If Carolina wins out it would be against the Packers AND Falcons while adding to a resume of beating the Patriots at home and seemingly unstoppable Vikings team. The man wasn't even healthy through the first few weeks. Kelvin Benjamin got traded away and Olsen has been injured all year. Ryan Khalil wasn't healthy most of the year, etc. He's got a reasonable case. The man has a bottom 10 passer rating among the 35 qualified players... What would be his argument over Wilson? He's got some MVP highs, sure, but he's also had several games where he's not even at a starter's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, MD4L said: You guys discrediting Cam is hilarious. If Carolina wins out it would be against the Packers AND Falcons while adding to a resume of beating the Patriots at home and seemingly unstoppable Vikings team. The man wasn't even healthy through the first few weeks. Kelvin Benjamin got traded away and Olsen has been injured all year. Ryan Khalil wasn't healthy most of the year, etc. He's got a reasonable case. He is average to below average in every passing category, both volume and efficiency. He's not getting MVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: The man has a bottom 10 passer rating among the 35 qualified players... What would be his argument over Wilson? He's got some MVP highs, sure, but he's also had several games where he's not even at a starter's level. I'm not advocating Cam Newton over Russell Wilson. I'm saying the situation Cam has been given and how competitive Carolina has been directly results from Cam Newton being under center. Kuchely being healthy goes a long way for them as well. I'd personally give the award to Antonio Brown before Cam but that's praise to watching the former play and make plays in big games all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, childofpudding said: He is average to below average in every passing category, both volume and efficiency. He's not getting MVP. For shame. Having to rely on Ed Dickson, Christian McCaffery, Damiere Byrd, Johnathan Stewarts sub 4 YPC, and Russell Shepard on a consistent basis, I would expect more from a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Also since we're so set on stats we want to deny Cam as a runner too? The essential deciding run against Minnesota can only be done by a handful of QBs, and a couple of them (Watson + Wentz) are done for similar reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, MD4L said: For shame. Having to rely on Ed Dickson, Christian McCaffery, Damiere Byrd, Johnathan Stewarts sub 4 YPC, and Russell Shepard on a consistent basis, I would expect more from a QB. Cam Newton for MVP this year is an argument better suited for the MVP thread in NFL Comparisons right now. In reality, the NFL MVP award is basically a combination of best QB + OPOY, and Cam is neither of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 If Cam Newton is an MVP candidate, then Philip Rivers is one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
childofpudding Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 50 minutes ago, MD4L said: Also since we're so set on stats we want to deny Cam as a runner too? The essential deciding run against Minnesota can only be done by a handful of QBs, and a couple of them (Watson + Wentz) are done for similar reasons. He's 12th in passing+rushing yards and 12th in passing+rushing TDs. He's not having an MVP season, in the least. He also has the 5th most turnovers of any QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Lol Cam Newton MVP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Cam does not even deserve a mention for MVP this year. The only guy who could have won the award besides Brady just tore his ACL unfortunately. MAYBE Wilson goes absolutely nuts for three straight weeks and Brady plays like last night for three straight weeks and we get a Wilson MVP, but that is almost entirely unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 19 hours ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: The man has a bottom 10 passer rating among the 35 qualified players... What would be his argument over Wilson? He's got some MVP highs, sure, but he's also had several games where he's not even at a starter's level. An MVP has to show some semblance of consistency. As for passing, he's had 7 bad games, 2 ok games, and 4 good games. Not a good look for a QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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