G08 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 12 hours ago, WindyCity said: I am not worried about pass rush. Nichols, Edwards, and Hicks are a really good 3 players combo. I am worried about guys who can physically stop the run. We didn’t have that. Pennel traditionally has been a very good run defender and is a similar size to Goldman. I think Goldman sitting out last season really hampered our run defense. This season, with Desai calling the shots, we aren't going to have more than 7 in the box because the focus will be on coverage. Having someone like Eddie Goldman is huge (no pun intended) with that kind of an approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Maybe Tonga has been underwhelming off the bat. Either way I'm trying to figure out what his problem is. Did he not miss football last year? Is it contract related? Linemen haven't even done anything yet. Its all shorts and t shirts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: I think Goldman sitting out last season really hampered our run defense. This season, with Desai calling the shots, we aren't going to have more than 7 in the box because the focus will be on coverage. Having someone like Eddie Goldman is huge (no pun intended) with that kind of an approach. I agree. But are we getting 2019 Goldman is question. We don't have answers right now only questions. All we know is he sat out a year and still isn't here. A lot can happen to a large man in a year+ off football often either really good or really bad. It's not sounding really good at moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 14 hours ago, Heinz D. said: That's...weird. Huh. I don't even know the dude. (I think.) Me either. LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: I think Goldman sitting out last season really hampered our run defense. This season, with Desai calling the shots, we aren't going to have more than 7 in the box because the focus will be on coverage. Having someone like Eddie Goldman is huge (no pun intended) with that kind of an approach. 70% of the time we are in a 4-3. I agree having a traditional NT is important for when we are in base and on early downs, but I think Pennel can handle the run portion of it at a much better cost. We do not really use Goldman for pass rushing. He is the 4th best pass rusher on the team. We pay a lot of money for a guy who has sat out a year, no showed camp, and is likely a run down player. If we ever get an offense that doesn't suck my guess is Goldman will play even less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, WindyCity said: If we ever get an offense that doesn't suck my guess is Goldman will play even less. From 2018: “(Goldman) is an unsung hero,” Hicks said. “He’s eating up blocks in the middle for both ends, for both linebackers. Eddie has been doing that for a number of years. I know that he’s battled some adversity as far as playing throughout the season, but he’s strong — man, he’s strong — and he has a will to be there for us. I know he doesn’t get a lot of attention, but he’s a great player.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, G08 said: From 2018: “(Goldman) is an unsung hero,” Hicks said. “He’s eating up blocks in the middle for both ends, for both linebackers. Eddie has been doing that for a number of years. I know that he’s battled some adversity as far as playing throughout the season, but he’s strong — man, he’s strong — and he has a will to be there for us. I know he doesn’t get a lot of attention, but he’s a great player.” I do not doubt that he is important. But is he 11 million dollars important and non-replaceable? We need to get cheaper on defense and there are not a ton of spots to trim. Who would you rather keep Nichols or Goldman? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Had an excellent first year for KC, changed the look of our defense by eating up so much space. His second year wasn't quite up to that level but I have no doubt he can be a solid run stuffer for y'all. Solid signing for sure. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 53 minutes ago, Chiefs_5627 said: Had an excellent first year for KC, changed the look of our defense by eating up so much space. His second year wasn't quite up to that level but I have no doubt he can be a solid run stuffer for y'all. Solid signing for sure. Any reason why you didn't want him back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, G08 said: Any reason why you didn't want him back? They signed Jarran Reed from Seattle to play the NT spot. He is better than Pennel. Pennel is super 1 dimensional. No pass rush what so ever, but his 1 dimension is what we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Honest Question, how many “big” defensive contracts do you think we are going to carry in the future? In 2020 we had 8. That is clearly too many on defense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindyCity Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Nichols is the priority on the DL now. He is the best player, outside of Hicks on the decline. My priority would be getting Nichols extended. Goldman not showing up may make that easier and more of a priority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefs_5627 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 hours ago, G08 said: Any reason why you didn't want him back? Basically what @WindyCity said. Reed falling to us was a heck of a pick up, although he's going to take Chris Jones spot moreso, pushing CJ to DE more often and we got our big dude Nnadi and a young up and comer Turk Wharton on the inside. Basically we had no place for Big Mike as we have a lot of depth along the dline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted July 12, 2021 Share Posted July 12, 2021 This dude is not 336 lbs... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 13, 2021 Share Posted July 13, 2021 6 hours ago, G08 said: This dude is not 336 lbs... No, and he hasn't been ever since his rookie year. The Bears have him listed at 318lbs. Is it possible he dropped some weight over the last year and wanted to bulk up again before camp? Compare him to John Jenkins. Goldman is not fat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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