NYRaider Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Sllim Pickens said: Well if Bates ends up in there, it would be top 4 pick. And I am not sure he would take us out of the top four pick contention, especially if we move Grant and Hayes. Maybe we send Bey as well just to make sure we still suck. There is a chance he would still improve us enough, but the rest of the team is still pretty dookie outside of Cade and Simmons in that scenario. I think at best we would be a bottom 6 team unless Cade is all star level from day 1 which still would land us a Hardy or Griffin. Either way we would still be in a good spot with enough cap for a max and a top pick. Yeah that team would be what? Cade - Diallo - Bey - Simmons - Stewart? Definitely would be in contention for a top pick, but I don't think you'd attract a max level guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 21 hours ago, NYRaider said: How do teams expect to land Simmons when they're not willing to give up any decent players? I'm confused as to which side you're arguing for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 16, 2021 Author Share Posted September 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm confused as to which side you're arguing for. How are the Kings going to land Ben Simmons if they're not willing to include Haliburton? Haliburton had a solid rookie season, Ben has been All-NBA, All-NBA defense, and an All-Star on a top tier team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerstk7 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 9/15/2021 at 11:58 PM, NYRaider said: How are the Kings going to land Ben Simmons if they're not willing to include Haliburton? Haliburton had a solid rookie season, Ben has been All-NBA, All-NBA defense, and an All-Star on a top tier team. I’m guessing they’d be banking on Halliburton’s future offensive potential being worth more than Simmons’ defense and play making value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Author Share Posted September 18, 2021 5 hours ago, packerstk7 said: I’m guessing they’d be banking on Halliburton’s future offensive potential being worth more than Simmons’ defense and play making value. Sacramento was the worst defensive team in the NBA last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Bali Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 sixers need that nasty Simmons contract off their books Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 20, 2021 Author Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Dan_Bali said: sixers need that nasty Simmons contract off their books Nasty contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Bali Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: Nasty contract? Yes, paying a point guard $29 million dollars a year who is scared to shoot in the modern NBA is about as dumb as dumb can get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dan_Bali said: Yes, paying a point guard $29 million dollars a year who is scared to shoot in the modern NBA is about as dumb as dumb can get. agreed. his contract is worse than wall's. Edited September 20, 2021 by Texansfan713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 36 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: agreed. his contract is worse than wall's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Speaking of Wall and Simmons just seen a tweet from Evan Dammarrell (not sure how credible he is, but he has a blue check on twitter) that saying Rockets are seriously interested in acquiring him for Wall. I have a feeling its going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sllim Pickens Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 38 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: Speaking of Wall and Simmons just seen a tweet from Evan Dammarrell (not sure how credible he is, but he has a blue check on twitter) that saying Rockets are seriously interested in acquiring him for Wall. I have a feeling its going to happen. Philly would be stupid to do that. Wall is no better scoring and can't stay on the court. That would be one of the worst outcomes for Philly IMO. But would be great for Houston and Green's development playing with a playmaker and defender like Ben. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 lmao "ok fine we'll trade you our 25 year old all star and elite defender with 4 years left on his contract in exchange for the worst contract in the league who suffered a career altering injury who also isn't a good 3 point shooter" i'm sure that's exactly how the conversation went between the guy who wanted 5 1st round picks from golden state and 7 1st round picks from san antonio and the guy who stopped a james harden trade out of spite because the other guy thought he was too cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) the fact simmons has 4 years left on his deal makes him a worse contract than wall. Edited September 20, 2021 by Texansfan713 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catcheryea Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Texansfan713 said: the fact simmons has 4 years left on his deal makes him a worse contract than wall. the lie detector determined that was a lie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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