seminoles1 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, 11sanchez11 said: Cause he is way better? Why does PJ Tucker deserve a ring more than Dragan Bender? Seems pretty simple Oh totally, makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 33 minutes ago, Old Guy said: Why does CP3 deserve a ring? What makes him more special than some of the other legends who never got one? He tried the 'super team' thing and didn't get one. I don't believe in sentimental ring giving. If CP3 wins one good on him, but if Giannis is healthy, the Suns are the underdogs. If the Bucks can guard their small guys they win easy because there is no way the Suns can contain the Bucks big guys inside. Again, given a healthy Giannis. Its not just because he is better but he has been through so much in career that if he does finally break through and win its a big deal. You are going back and talking about other legends. Im specifically looking at guys who are still playing. Plus even if Giannis was healthy the Suns are the favorites. I havent been impressed with the Bucks all playoffs long. They just capitalized off of the Nets having Harden and Kyrie hurt and then the Hawks having Young hurt. All throughout the playoffs aside from the Heat series all Ive been hearing associated with the Bucks is them playing dumb basketball because instead of using their size they jack up 3's and they have been struggling all playoffs long shooting the 3. Now if Giannis was healthy I can see this series going 6 or 7 but I still will go towards the Suns because of the way Booker is playing. CP3 is playing great and is not turning the ball over and Ayton has been playing lights out. Plus the Bucks dont have the coaching advantage like they had in the past two series where they went up against McMillan and Nash. McMillan is more seasoned than Nash so he pulled all the right buttons to even get the Hawks into a Game 6. Monty is an excellent coach with a healthy roster. The Suns should be the favorites and I feel like they will win. If they dont it will look bad on CP3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Guy Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, stl4life07 said: Its not just because he is better but he has been through so much in career that if he does finally break through and win its a big deal. You are going back and talking about other legends. Im specifically looking at guys who are still playing. Plus even if Giannis was healthy the Suns are the favorites. I havent been impressed with the Bucks all playoffs long. They just capitalized off of the Nets having Harden and Kyrie hurt and then the Hawks having Young hurt. All throughout the playoffs aside from the Heat series all Ive been hearing associated with the Bucks is them playing dumb basketball because instead of using their size they jack up 3's and they have been struggling all playoffs long shooting the 3. Now if Giannis was healthy I can see this series going 6 or 7 but I still will go towards the Suns because of the way Booker is playing. CP3 is playing great and is not turning the ball over and Ayton has been playing lights out. Plus the Bucks dont have the coaching advantage like they had in the past two series where they went up against McMillan and Nash. McMillan is more seasoned than Nash so he pulled all the right buttons to even get the Hawks into a Game 6. Monty is an excellent coach with a healthy roster. The Suns should be the favorites and I feel like they will win. If they dont it will look bad on CP3. Not according to the professional odds makers. A healthy Giannis would make the Bucks favorites. Sportsbooks make Phoenix Suns NBA Finals favorites over Giannis Antetokounmpo-less Milwaukee Bucks (espn.com) Edited July 5, 2021 by Old Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stl4life07 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Old Guy said: Not according to the professional odds makers. A healthy Giannis would make the Bucks favorites. Interesting. I guess they figured the 2x MVP should get the job done. To me it would still come down to Middleton and Holiday. Giannis was putting up great numbers all playoffs long and still was pushed to 7 games with KD and nobody else on the Nets and before he got hurt the Hawks was giving the a battle. The reason was because Middleton was inconsistent and Holiday offensively has been bad. The Suns have been the most healthy and consistent team in the playoffs so one has to think regardless if Giannis was healthy or not the Suns would still win. I’d definitely take the bet on the Suns if the odds makers were thinking that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 10 hours ago, Kirill said: Love or hate CP3, he deserves a ring. He’s sacrificed his life for this sport in a way few have. He deserves a ring because he has tried and failed 15 times up to this point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirill Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 1 hour ago, NYRaider said: He deserves a ring because he has tried and failed 15 times up to this point? NBA player association president and his hands are permanently deformed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 15 minutes ago, Kirill said: NBA player association president and his hands are permanently deformed Sam Presti deserves multiple rings for building a dynasty. #Analytics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirill Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Lol if Bucks win the chip after all the Giannis trolling just cuz KD dropped 40+ on him like he can do on literally any defender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 This was the only time since 2005 the road team won gm1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I hope it goes 7. This is a matchup I'm really excited for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger murdock Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I think on paper the Bucks (if healthy) are better but theres something thats so frustrating watching them. They always seem to get in their own way. I think Suns win in 6. I honestly won't be surprised by any outcome. I could see either team sweeping even. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyld Stallyns Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Torrey Craig of the Suns is the first player since the 2015-16 Warrior’s Anderson Varejao to play for both finals teams in that season. He could potentially get a ring regardless of the outcome. The Cavaliers offered Varejao a ring but he turned it down. https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspin.com/win-or-lose-torrey-craig-will-should-get-a-ring-1847231000/amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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