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2021 Olympic Basketball: USA v France for Gold (Friday 10:30 est)


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22 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

This team is lacking A-list players, and doesn't sound like a team who gives a crap about winning the Olympics or representing their country. No wonder they've sucked.

Its lacking depth of A list players compared to previous Olympic teams but KD, Dame, Tatum, and Beal along with a bunch of really solid top 40 NBA players (and Kevin Love) should be able to beat a team lead by Patty Mills.  

Every NBA draft we have done on here the top 8 on this team are drafted in the first 20 picks. 

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14 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

Its lacking depth of A list players compared to previous Olympic teams but KD, Dame, Tatum, and Beal along with a bunch of really solid top 40 NBA players (and Kevin Love) should be able to beat a team lead by Patty Mills.  

Every NBA draft we have done on here the top 8 on this team are drafted in the first 20 picks. 

You'd think but KD/Dame/Tatum/Beal all do the same thing. They are all pure scorers and two of them don't defend at all. Same with LaVine. Guys like Beal and LaVine in particular have never won anything and give you nothing outside of scoring, which when forced to be a role player, isn't ideal. They need more guys in the vein of Draymond like Jimmy Butler.

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43 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

You'd think but KD/Dame/Tatum/Beal all do the same thing. They are all pure scorers and two of them don't defend at all. Same with LaVine. Guys like Beal and LaVine in particular have never won anything and give you nothing outside of scoring, which when forced to be a role player, isn't ideal. They need more guys in the vein of Draymond like Jimmy Butler.

I agree, but thats not a shortage of A list players, thats a shortage of quality role players/chemistry.  KD and Tatum can D.  So can Brown and Bam.  Eventually they would have Jrue as well which will help.  But still, with that scoring power, they should be able to run people out of the gym.  

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27 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

I agree, but thats not a shortage of A list players, thats a shortage of quality role players/chemistry.  KD and Tatum can D.  So can Brown and Bam.  Eventually they would have Jrue as well which will help.  But still, with that scoring power, they should be able to run people out of the gym.  

Sure it is. KD and Dame are the only A list guys. Curry, Kawhi, LeBron, Harden, Davis, CP3 and Butler are all nowhere to be found. There are legitimate reasons for that but the point remains. 

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How many A-listers did the team have back in 2016? This team just lacks any sort of perimeter defense at the moment and probably could use someone who would move the ball. Holiday is going to be good for the team, especially the starting unit as he will be the defensive stopper and someone who is not going to need the ball offensively. Once the roles become defined, they will be fine. It's not going to be pretty as they don't have the overwhelming talent they had in 2008 and 2012, but good enough to win it all. KD is going to need to start being the dominant force he was the last two Olympics and once he does that, things will change for the team. 

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12 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

Sure it is. KD and Dame are the only A list guys. Curry, Kawhi, LeBron, Harden, Davis, CP3 and Butler are all nowhere to be found. There are legitimate reasons for that but the point remains. 

Tatum, and Beal are similarly ranked to Jimmy Butler and CP3, albeit there are better fits for the team.  They are still A list players.  They dont need a Steph/Harden type, they need defenders and passers.  Yes Kawhi, Butler and Lebron would help any team if healthy but they don't need them to win this.  They have the star power, they just to fit together well and have no chemistry.  This team should still easily dominate the world competition if they tried. 

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11 minutes ago, Sllim Pickens said:

Tatum, and Beal are similarly ranked to Jimmy Butler and CP3, albeit there are better fits for the team.  They are still A list players.  They dont need a Steph/Harden type, they need defenders and passers.  Yes Kawhi, Butler and Lebron would help any team if healthy but they don't need them to win this.  They have the star power, they just to fit together well and have no chemistry.  This team should still easily dominate the world competition if they tried. 

Beal isn't on the same planet as Butler and CP3. Jayson Tatum is not an A lister yet. 

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