soulman Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Heinz D. said: How "nice"? Nothin' but the best brother. You can even take your pick. 😁 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, soulman said: Nothin' but the best brother. You can even take your pick. 😁 Whew. Flashbacks of high school parties after football... and occasionally the horrible morning after. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 Is Aaron Rodgers Retiring? (The following originated as a Twitter thread early Saturday morning.) “Vegas knows.” That’s something an old bookie in New Jersey used to say to me all the time at the Mardi Gras bar in Lyndhurst. Whenever a score ended up within a half point of the spread, he’d walk over to me, reeking of the three Newports he just smoked, and say, “Vegas knows.” (Side note: I do wonder if the very concept of “Vegas” will be changing in the coming years as sportsbooks proliferate around the country. Spreads are no longer coming exclusively from the desert. They’re coming from Jersey and Rhode Island and soon upstate New York. Something to think about. Or don’t. It’s your life.) Rumors started circulating Friday night that Aaron Rodgers would retire this week, instead of returning to the Green Bay Packers. It is a strategy his agent – David Dunn – employed brilliantly years ago to get Carson Palmer out of Cincinnati. As the rumors grew louder, NFC North odds disappeared from most sportsbooks; only to reappear the following morning with the Minnesota Vikings installed as division favorites. How did the Packers let this happen? Some thoughts. It seems, at least to me, that this is a situation where having an owner would be of great value. Someone who can insert themselves into this conversation and effectively end it. Winning a Super Bowl is incredibly hard. And the Packers’ best chance to do that over the next three years is with Rodgers. They’d be among the handful of favorites each year and nothing else matters. Nothing. If you went to every owner in the league right now and said, “Do these three things and you’ll be a championship contender the next three years” every single one of them would do those three things instantly, barring the firing of family members. (And some would even do that.) There’s no organizational pride at stake here. You took a shot on Jordan Love. Who cares if he ever plays a down for you? When Love was drafted, the entire league thought Rodgers was declining. Turns out he wasn’t and now the Packers have one of the greatest QBs ever coming off one of his best seasons. A good owner would tell his football people to swallow their pride. The Packers should have sat down with Rodgers and said, “Give us your list of demands.” Then they should have met them. This is a QB league and he’s great. Rodgers may not have had financial leverage but he had ALL the football leverage. It’s pretty simple. With Rodgers, title contender. Without Rodgers, not. Instead, they took potshots at him in the media. Rodgers is complicated. He’s fragile. He’s thin-skinned. He holds a grudge. (Just ask his family.) If I know this, surely the Packers do too. Their behavior makes no sense if their intention was to keep their star happy. And now they can’t get a contract done with Devante Adams, who has been showing social media solidarity with Rodgers on Instagram. You can sing Brian Gutekunst’s praises for roster building all you want but isn’t relating to players at least PART of the gig? Isn’t keeping the star happy in the job description? If Gutekunst’s tenure involves losing Rodgers, losing Adams as a result of losing Rodgers, and winning no titles, can it get any worse? If an owner knew firing Gutekunst today would guarantee Rodgers-to-Adams for the next three seasons, wouldn’t they owe it to their fans (and the rest of the roster) to do just that? But the Packers don’t have an owner. You’ll hear “no player is bigger than the team” stuff in the weeks to come. Got news for ya: that’s bull****. Many players are bigger than their teams. Did you get a look at the Patriots last year? How about the Bucs? There’s one guy that’s bigger than two teams! To paraphrase Jerry Seinfeld, a team is just laundry. The GM’s job is to put the best possible players in that laundry. There’s another great Seinfeld moment that comes to mind. When Jerry and George are pitching their failed sitcom pilot to Japanese television, Kramer convinced them to bring oranges, claiming oranges are “rare” in Japan. ____________________ ____________________ The Japanese TV guy doesn’t get the pilot and George responds, “You’ve been living in America too long. You’ve forgotten what it’s like to have no oranges.” The Packers have forgotten what’s it like to have no QB. They’re about to remember. And it’s their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAR FACE DOWN ARROW Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 14 hours ago, soulman said: Nothin' but the best brother. You can even take your pick. 😁 I was thinking of something a little higher on the shelves than that but what the heck. If someone from out of town wants in I'd even pay to UPS some Malort just to really get the "when you win you lose" nature of throwing out bets on the internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 What a total B. After all of that Rodgers is coming back. What bunch of BS. This behavior might be the reason why it’s public knowledge that Aaron’s own brother hates his guts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, RunningVaccs said: I was thinking of something a little higher on the shelves than that but what the heck. If someone from out of town wants in I'd even pay to UPS some Malort just to really get the "when you win you lose" nature of throwing out bets on the internet. In some of the places I once shopped those were on the top shelf......LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, 41st ward Chicagoian said: What a total B. After all of that Rodgers is coming back. What bunch of BS. This behavior might be the reason why it’s public knowledge that Aaron’s own brother hates his guts. And so it's being reported. Tomorrow is the official beginning of camp for vets and if he either reports or provides a date when he will report we'll have our confirmation. In the meantime he's gotten a serious amount of attention and ink which never hurts when you're as egocentric as he is. I somewhat suspected when he and Davante Adams Tweeted together about a "Last Dance" that both would see this as a last shot at getting a ring in Green Bay. Both have declined extensions and although Adams is in the final year of his deal Rodgers has 3 more to go. That said I think it may be same to assume this is Rodgers last year in GB. His 2022 cap cost is nearly $40 mil with a dead cap hit of just $17 mil so trading Rodger prior to the 2022 season will save the Packers over $22 mil in cap. That's OK. Now we can face GB at their best and work to frustrate their hope for one more Rodgers Era Super Bowl appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopackgo972 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 21 hours ago, RunningVaccs said: I agree with most of the thoughts here, except that there is any possibility that Jordan love is ready in the eyes of the pack. If he were even decent right now, Aaron Rodgers would be in lv or co. To paraphrase my favorite Bears podcast "Jordan loves gotta suck, right?" Not saying he can't be good (although I think he's not) but theres no way they don't take the boatload of picks for Rodgers if they feel set at QB. The Bortles signing ices it. The Packers never spend on the backups. I will bet a nice bottle of wine that Jordan Love doesn't make 20 starts in the NFL If Mitchell Trubisky can start 50 games, Love can too. I’ll take that bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 17 minutes ago, gopackgo972 said: If Mitchell Trubisky can start 50 games, Love can too. I’ll take that bet. If Rodgers keeps hangin' around he'll never start that many with the Packers......LOL. What's kept you? All you cheddar heads have been very quiet around here 'til you got the news that Aaron actually plans to show up. One Last Dance for Aaron and Davante eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugashane Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 11 hours ago, gopackgo972 said: If Mitchell Trubisky can start 50 games, Love can too. I’ll take that bet. Trubisky had to follow up Matt Barkley as the QB with the most starts in the previous year too. Has bad was still better than that. Packers apparently have "standards" for QB play... whatever the hell that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBears019 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Well it was fun while it lasted, but i guess we should have known all along he wasn’t going to leave the packers that easily. Maybe next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 48 minutes ago, CBears019 said: Well it was fun while it lasted, but i guess we should have known all along he wasn’t going to leave the packers that easily. Maybe next year. I truly believe it was 50/50 for quite awhile until the Packer front office finally put things on the table he was finally happy with. Figuratively getting down on their knees while negotiating this final deal probably didn't hurt either. He got his guaranteed $$$ and had his 2023 year voided. That's OK. The GB front office finally blinked as expected. If we're gonna beat GB I'd prefer it take place with Rodger's at QB anyway so there are no excuses if and when it happens. I'd also like to see Rodgers and Fields in a head to head match up which is a distinct possibility now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41st ward Chicagoian Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 So Karen Rodgers showed up for camp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dll2000 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 In all honesty if he is okay with situation then Packers are one of 4 best teams in NFL barring a rash of injuries. They have as good a chance to win SB as anyone. Fans really abandoned Rodgers during this process. Have been so busy I haven't had time to check their board. Guessing Rodgers is wonderful guy once again while a just few days ago he was a stuck up Cali jerk who thinks he is smarter than he is and can't even get along with his own family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulman Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 57 minutes ago, dll2000 said: In all honesty if he is okay with situation then Packers are one of 4 best teams in NFL barring a rash of injuries. They have as good a chance to win SB as anyone. Fans really abandoned Rodgers during this process. Have been so busy I haven't had time to check their board. Guessing Rodgers is wonderful guy once again while a just few days ago he was a stuck up Cali jerk who thinks he is smarter than he is and can't even get along with his own family. I'll be curious to check out some of their responses as well. GB fans in general aren't a whole lot different than the Packer front office. They're very transactional and weigh heavily into what have you done for me lately or what can you do for me now. As long as Rodgers is helping them win they'll just shut up and pretend they never said what they said when he was playing hard to get. This much I'm relatively sure of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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