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Do you think a 12-4/11-5/10-6/9-7 team that MISSES the playoffs feel cheated/empty?


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There would need to be an ungodly amount of 2 or 3 win teams and 10+ win teams for 12-4 to miss the playoffs. Even 11-5. 

With the extra game comes some wrinkles that could absolutely lead some 10+ win teams to miss out. The AFC could easily see KC, Buffalo, Miami, LA, Baltimore, Cleveland, Tennessee, Indianapolis and maybe Las Vegas or another surprise get to at least 10-7. The NFC...they're a mess lol. 

I think we see a lot more teams missing the playoffs as a 10+ win team going forward. My guess is there's always going to be some disappointment in being a winning team and not getting in due to divisions/tie breakers. 10 wins typically put a team in the upper half of the league after all. 

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On 7/23/2021 at 2:10 PM, TakeTheBallDeep said:

Under the old playoff format to me it was always tough seeing a 10-6 team miss the playoffs. In a perfect world if you win 10 games in the NFL you should be in the playoffs but that’s not how it works from time to time 

Under the new format it won’t be as bad obviously 

yeah, plus if youre not in the top 3 wild cards, too bad frankly

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On 7/21/2021 at 11:35 AM, IheartMyV8 said:

couple examples

2008 11-5 Pats out, 8-8 Chargers in.  
2010 10-6 Giants/Bucs out, 7-9 Seahawks in.

There's something cringe about that, but the system is the system regardless.

Yeah the system is flawed, but the flaws do not show themselves too often so it continues as is.

The playoffs should be about getting the best 6 (now 7) teams in. Winning your division is obviously in your control, but some divisions are the NFC West and some are the NFC East so it's not an even playing field.

Best 7 teams should be in regardless of division. Limit division play to one game vs each team per year and alternate home/away each season. Open up the schedule to teams outside your division with those other 3 games and it justifies top 7 teams in playoffs.

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On 7/27/2021 at 7:49 AM, BStanRamFan said:

Yeah the system is flawed, but the flaws do not show themselves too often so it continues as is.

The playoffs should be about getting the best 6 (now 7) teams in. Winning your division is obviously in your control, but some divisions are the NFC West and some are the NFC East so it's not an even playing field.

Best 7 teams should be in regardless of division. Limit division play to one game vs each team per year and alternate home/away each season. Open up the schedule to teams outside your division with those other 3 games and it justifies top 7 teams in playoffs.

The problem with that will still be those teams that get shafted by their schedules. 

So you don't get in based on winning your Division but say the

Rams/NFCW played.....the AFCN (@Pit,@Bal,Clev)/NFCS(@TB,NO,ATL), @KC, Mia, Dal @GB/@Buffalo in December. 

Bears/NFCN played say the NFCE/AFCS , Cin, LV, NYJ, Hou, AZ Jax....

Would the records of those two teams truly dictate who the more deserving of the two should get in if say the Rams were 10-7 Bears 11-6?

The NFL runs in cycles, has since its creation. Win your Division,  secure a spot as it should be! Do well in your Division and the rest of the schedule but not Win it, you flip a coin on your playoff chances. It's why the system still works.

For all the 💩 the NFCE has gotten the past few season it wasn't to long ago the same exact things were said about your (NFCW) ,the AFCS, the AFCE, the AFCW, the NFCS, NFCN within the past 15 years.

The NFCE for decades was a blood bath. One of the tougher Divisions in all of football to not only win but play against. There's a reason there hasn't been a repeat NFCE Champs since 04' and it's not because the Division sucks year in and year out either.

Guarantee if the Rams in the coming decade pull a 7-9 Seahawks circa 2010, 9-7 Cards circa 2008 , 9-7 Giants circa 2011 and actually go on to make a run the last thing you or any Rams fan will be doing is complaining about the injustice of a team from a 💩'ty division making it in. Just saying. 

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39 minutes ago, Nabbs4u said:

The problem with that will still be those teams that get shafted by their schedules. 

So you don't get in based on winning your Division but say the

Rams/NFCW played.....the AFCN (@Pit,@Bal,Clev)/NFCS(@TB,NO,ATL), @KC, Mia, Dal @GB/@Buffalo in December. 

Bears/NFCN played say the NFCE/AFCS , Cin, LV, NYJ, Hou, AZ Jax....

Would the records of those two teams truly dictate who the more deserving of the two should get in if say the Rams were 10-7 Bears 11-6?

The NFL runs in cycles, has since its creation. Win your Division,  secure a spot as it should be! Do well in your Division and the rest of the schedule but not Win it, you flip a coin on your playoff chances. It's why the system still works.

For all the 💩 the NFCE has gotten the past few season it wasn't to long ago the same exact things were said about your (NFCW) ,the AFCS, the AFCE, the AFCW, the NFCS, NFCN within the past 15 years.

The NFCE for decades was a blood bath. One of the tougher Divisions in all of football to not only win but play against. There's a reason there hasn't been a repeat NFCE Champs since 04' and it's not because the Division sucks year in and year out either.

Guarantee if the Rams in the coming decade pull a 7-9 Seahawks circa 2010, 9-7 Cards circa 2008 , 9-7 Giants circa 2011 and actually go on to make a run the last thing you or any Rams fan will be doing is complaining about the injustice of a team from a 💩'ty division making it in. Just saying. 

I have a way to avoid the cyclical nature of each division being more/less competitive...

Have the best 7 teams in the playoffs every year. 

Not sure why that is considered controversial. I'm sure it will bite every team in the arse at some point, but at least it will be fair over time. Beat the team you face every week and you will be rewarded vs. beat the teams in your geographical proximity more and you can find yourself limping into the playoffs. 

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If you win 11 games, you should be a playoff team. I get the idea that you should win your division, but a team could theoretically win two games against a 12 win team and still lose the division

IMO the extra playoff spot for the third wildcard should only be given if the third team wins 10+ games. Or at least, has a winning record (9 wins). If the third team is an 8 win team, then it should be 6 spots in that conference. 

Helps get good teams in, while keeping bad teams out. 

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