warfelg Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: So I have definitely come around to your thought here, especially regarding the bold. It makes sense, especially the way the Steelers try to conduct business, to cram as much as they can in the early portion of the contract. If increasing his money now helps sign him long term -- it all makes sense. What I have never understood is the "lets move $5M from Player A to next year to pay $5M to player B this year". Just pay player B that money next year...its all the same pot of money being paid out. But with the amount of guarantees he is basing his new contract negotiations on from Bosa and Garrett, I get the feeling you are right. Depending on how it's structured, you guarantee Watt more this year, get the ability to restructure him next year for more space that you wouldn't have doing it the other way around. Also that Adams deal just F-ed up any plans at keeping Minkah cheaper, as Adams makes $17mil AAV and in my estimation Minkah is MUCH better than Adams. Also - $17mil for a glorified 2 down backer with major coverage concerns is such a hilarious overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, warfelg said: Also - $17mil for a glorified 2 down backer with major coverage concerns is such a hilarious overpay. This is the part that angers me. Dude isn't a safety. Hopefully the Steelers can use that as part of an argument during a Minkah negotiation, but its probably mute. Hype is a hell of a thing. Jamal Adam is not that good. Nice little piece, but he and Mike Hilton were not that different from each other. I'll repeat that name. Mike Hilton. The guy who just signed for $6M per season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dcash4 said: This is the part that angers me. Dude isn't a safety. Hopefully the Steelers can use that as part of an argument during a Minkah negotiation, but its probably mute. Hype is a hell of a thing. Jamal Adam is not that good. Nice little piece, but he and Mike Hilton were not that different from each other. I'll repeat that name. Mike Hilton. The guy who just signed for $6M per season. Can't dare whisper that to the Jamal Adam's stans though. "He does things no safety does in setting the edge and blitzing!" Shut your mouth Football Karen. He can't even cover a pot of boiling water on the stove. He's a nice part but as he showed in NY he has extreme limits and is a part not the lynchpin you build a defense around. So funny that him and Minkah were similar when traded, unhappy with the team and the situation. Everyone said that Minkah was a whiny little B, and Adams was getting just what was his. Yet Adams did nothing but whine since getting traded til now, and Minkah has been a model citizen and hasn't said a peep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 a biggggggggggg sigh of relief 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dcash4 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 if your shopping at the car lot that’s selling you Kevin Whites…I can’t imagine what you would pay for someone to bring a James Washington to the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 There needs to be more talk about Freiermuth SMH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Danger said: There needs to be more talk about Freiermuth SMH NO! ....I'm trying to get him on every fantasy team I have right now, so can we wait on the Freiermuth talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, Danger said: There needs to be more talk about Freiermuth SMH apparently he's catching everything in camp. He could have a impact role here in yr 1 with our new OC Edited August 18, 2021 by August4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, August4th said: apparently he's catching everything in camp. He could have a impact role here in yr 1 with our new OC He should've been picked somewhere in the 18-30 range TBH. You guys got a steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) ben being able to do this stuff will be huge for the offense..hopefully his knees hold up late in the season Edited August 18, 2021 by August4th 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, August4th said: apparently he's catching everything in camp. He could have a impact role here in yr 1 with our new OC I doubt it. When's the last rookie TE that did anything? Unless Ebron goes down, Pat is probably only putting up pedestrian receiving numbers. I think he's going to make an impact blocking, for sure. Receiving, I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, August4th said: apparently he's catching everything in camp. He could have a impact role here in yr 1 with our new OC To quote Tomlin: That’s nice but can he block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, MOSteelers56 said: I doubt it. When's the last rookie TE that did anything? Unless Ebron goes down, Pat is probably only putting up pedestrian receiving numbers. I think he's going to make an impact blocking, for sure. Receiving, I doubt it. I think he is going to have a bigger role than expected, mainly because I see him taking over for Ebron. Pat works in single TE sets for run or pass, Ebron doesn't. So in a lot of cases towards the back end of the season I can see the snap% increasing drastically for Pat vs. EE. Also, if they are really going to use JuJu outside (or at least in a more "outside" field stretching role) that leaves a void of that safe, check down receiver -- a void I see filled by sure handed, highly thought of Pat Freiermuth. Caveat of my opinion: I love Pat Freiermuth. 2 hours ago, warfelg said: To quote Tomlin: That’s nice but can he block. TBF: Already better than Ebron 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 I can't see Pat putting up much better stats than Hockenson did as a rookie in Detroit(30ish/350ish/1-3TDs. TE is one of the hardest transitions from college to the pros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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