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Just now, Cpdaly23 said:

Summary- Florio is big mad.

Honestly, I expected it to be way worse than it was after seeing your reply. 

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2 minutes ago, Cpdaly23 said:

Summary- Florio is big mad.

Florio has become quite terrible. Said Rodgers created this madness without saying much of anything. And that right there shows how stupid the media is. The madness was created by the media. Rodgers can't start anything by not saying anything. All the months of "reporting" and speculation has caused more drama than anything. Reporting these days is such a joke and Florio is right up there with the worst of them. 

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10 minutes ago, Leader said:

PFT -   Our long regional nightmare is over. Aaron Rodgers is back. And at a time when some are twisting themselves in knots to characterize this as some sort of a major win for Rodgers, it’s not. It’s definitely not.

Make no mistake about it. Rodgers caved. Rodgers folded. Rodgers surrendered.

Once the restructured deal between the Packers and Rodgers becomes official, the Packers get their franchise quarterback. Rodgers gets (checks notes) the 2023 season of his current deal removed.

That’s it. That’s all he’s getting that he wasn’t already entitled to receive. Sure, they’ll convert a large chunk of his 2021 salary of $14.6 million into a guaranteed payment. That’s something the Packers automatically could have done in March, and which they would have done if he wasn’t making noise behind the scenes about wanting out. Besides, the guarantee means nothing. It’s not like they were going to cut him; he was getting that $14.6 million this year simply by showing up.

This vague, non-binding notion that the Packers will take another look at the situation after 2021 means nothing. The Packers ultimately will do whatever the Packers (a corporation, not a family-owned business) deem to be in their best interests. If the Packers decide not to let Rodgers go, they don’t have to. Also, unless this new agreement waives the ability to recover the $11.5 million in signing bonus he earns by playing in 2022, the Packers will have that leverage if he refuses to show up a year from now.

ESPN’s Adam Schefter, who broke the news of the deal between Rodgers and the Packers (and who recently had insisted that Rodgers is done with the Packers), tweeted repeatedly about “concessions” by the Packers when, in reality, the only concession came from wiping out the final season of the contract, three seasons from how. Schefter’s final tweet on the subject says that Rodgers has secured “the freedom to decide where he wants to play in 2022.”

But, again, he hasn’t secured that. The contract still runs through 2022. His freedom comes in 2023, unless Green Bay Packers, Inc. chooses to give it to him before then.

So why the mischaracterization of this deal as some sort of a win for Rodgers? Well,it’s probably hard to get a scoop like this without first agreeing to make it look like a victory Rodgers, even if it isn’t.

After everything that’s happened over the past three months, at the end of the day all it took to get him back was wiping out the 2023 season? And spare me the “they’ve made promises” nonsense. This is business. Any verbal guarantees Rodgers received as to 2021 or 2022 aren’t worth the paper they’re not printed on.

Bottom line? It’s a huge win for the Packers, and it’s also a big win for the cloud-shouting, get-off-my-lawn-yelling old-school football types who think the NFL is becoming like the NBA. Rodgers had a chance to further blur the lines between the two leagues, but as he dove for the goal line, he fumbled the ball through the end zone.

 

9 minutes ago, Cpdaly23 said:

Summary- Florio is big mad.

Florio is also a raging Vikings homer and wants to write stories to piss Rodgers off and make him actually want out.

Shefter and Rodgers also share a marketing agency I believe. Shows you where his interests were all along.

Rapoport is leaps and bounds ahead of these two chumps.

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58 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

I can't help but wonder, though, if Rodgers is "all in" for the season.  I think he will be, I hope he will be.  But, I just don't know.  

I guarantee you he's all in, even from his own pure self-interest. Think about it, if Rodgers leaves next season, does he want the FO to look good when they trade him or bad? Of course the answer is bad. So how does he achieve that assuming he goes...by balling out again this season. 

Scenario 1: Rodgers looks okay, average or even good but not great. Puts FO in much better position to trade him and say "hey we were right, 2020 was an aberration, he is declining, we were right to draft Love, etc." Much easier to spin the trade at that point and sell it to the fans. 

Scenario 2: Rodgers goes for MVP Part Deux and either wins it again or is in the conversation. Shows that 2020 was not an aberration and now GB has to potentially trade the best player in football over the last 2 seasons. Good luck selling that to the fans no matter how you spin it. Rodgers gets a new team and gets to laugh at the FO being dragged through the mud by every media outlet, ex player and fan in the country. 

Rodgers is petty. Rodgers holds grudges. Rodgers wants Scenario 2. This season may be his best one yet. 

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Lol.  Everybody is shifting right back to loving Rodgers as if he had any choice but to do what he just did.

He’s a butt.  A baby.  A whiner.

He just didn’t quite get his way and now he’s the hero for coming back?

You all realize this is his last year here unless he wins a Super Bowl, right?

If we win the Super Bowl this year you pay him whatever he wants and live with the fact that we won’t win another one with him.  That’s just good business and something you can live with.

But after all of this…

It is literally Super Bowl or bust for Rodgers and his future with the Packers this year.

His legacy hinges on this season.

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4 minutes ago, Arthur Penske said:

Florio is also a raging Vikings homer and wants to write stories to piss Rodgers off and make him actually want out.  Shefter and Rodgers also share a marketing agency I believe. Shows you where his interests were all along. Rapoport is leaps and bounds ahead of these two chumps.

I actually didnt look at who wrote the article. Just offered it without comment.

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1 minute ago, Outpost31 said:

His legacy hinges on this season.

Kinda why I'm happy tbh. It'll be a mess if he does win but he knows this too

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33 minutes ago, Brit Pack said:

May be an image of 1 person, standing, sunglasses and outdoors

So confirmed:

 

Rodgers likes "comedy" that isn't funny.

Rodgers likes actresses that can't act.

Rodgers likes bad music.

 

 

I really don't like Aaron Rodgers.

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4 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

Lol.  Everybody is shifting right back to loving Rodgers as if he had any choice but to do what he just did.

He’s a butt.  A baby.  A whiner.

He just didn’t quite get his way and now he’s the hero for coming back?

You all realize this is his last year here unless he wins a Super Bowl, right?

If we win the Super Bowl this year you pay him whatever he wants and live with the fact that we won’t win another one with him.  That’s just good business and something you can live with.

But after all of this…

It is literally Super Bowl or bust for Rodgers and his future with the Packers this year.

His legacy hinges on this season.

Meh, I think people are just happy that he's back for this season, as was always intended by the Packers. Not having him play this season with this team would have been a huge letdown. Love isn't ready. 

Things will be different next year and it will probably be time to turn to Love. That was always the plan and now we get to carry it out. 

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59 minutes ago, vegas492 said:

I'm skeptically happy.

I dig having #12 for at least one more season.  He is the MVP after all.  And Love really needs this training camp and pre-season games.  #12 gives us the best chance to win.  And we can still trade #12 after the season and get something back.  It won't be the haul we could have gotten prior to the draft, but it will be something.

I can't help but wonder, though, if Rodgers is "all in" for the season.  I think he will be, I hope he will be.  But, I just don't know.  

I was initially worried about his dedication prior to the contract restructure. I don't have that worry anymore.  His long term value is at his highest when he plays like he did last year.  If Trey Wingo's report is right and he wants RC back, that's an "All In" perspective for 12 (IMO).  I wouldn't at all surprised to see him have a better season than last year to maximize his value whether that is with GB or the trade candidate of his picking (which would be really hard given his ABSURD 9.1 TD %).  

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I was ready for the Packers to move on with Love, but the extra year of development for him could pay dividends for the next 15 years or more.  No need to rush the future when you have the league's reigning MVP on hand.  Let's get it .. the Lombardi is out there for the taking, and we should have enough talent on hand to make it so.

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3 minutes ago, ThatJerkDave said:

So confirmed:

 

Rodgers likes "comedy" that isn't funny.

Rodgers likes actresses that can't act.

Rodgers likes bad music.

 

 

I really don't like Aaron Rodgers.

Bye GIF by Tony Awards

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Just now, SSG said:

I was initially worried about his dedication prior to the contract restructure. I don't have that worry anymore.  His long term value is at his highest when he plays like he did last year.  If Trey Wingo's report is right and he wants RC back, that's an "All In" perspective for 12 (IMO).  I wouldn't at all surprised to see him have a better season than last year to maximize his value whether that is with GB or the trade candidate of his picking (which would be really hard given his ABSURD 9.1 TD %).  

I'm backing the GB front office here.  With Gute there, I can't find much fault with what they've done.  They obviously wouldn't have him back if they didn't think he was 100% all in.

Now here's what I really want out of this.  Adams and MVS locked into their next contracts.  Let's secure these two, with Rogers on a rookie deal and Lazard on essentially a 2 year deal.   Gets us a little continuity at the WR position and has a few spots open to develop another WR in the future.

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7 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

Lol.  Everybody is shifting right back to loving Rodgers as if he had any choice but to do what he just did.

He’s a butt.  A baby.  A whiner.

He just didn’t quite get his way and now he’s the hero for coming back?

You all realize this is his last year here unless he wins a Super Bowl, right?

If we win the Super Bowl this year you pay him whatever he wants and live with the fact that we won’t win another one with him.  That’s just good business and something you can live with.

But after all of this…

It is literally Super Bowl or bust for Rodgers and his future with the Packers this year.

His legacy hinges on this season.

I think everyone realizes he's being a baby, the issue is he's a  phenomenal QB and it's fun as hell to watch him play. We all remember Hundley, Seneca Wallace, etc. ( of course Tolzien was a treasure).

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