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Jaguars trade LB Joe Schobert to PIT


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59 minutes ago, Charles said:

Could be a great lb if he wasn't such a liability against the run.  Decent guy to have on a roster, but he was way overpaid.  Feels like they just saw an opportunity to unload an overpriced player. 

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It’s something that was brought up when he signed that deal in the first place...but yeah, you can’t even just add an, “if only” caveat that big on a guy who plays the role he does. 
 

When you’re really only a MLB, but don’t have the attacking mentality and sand in your pants to stifle the run game...what exactly are you? You can’t just get continually gouged for 8 yards because your ILB is chasing every run play down from behind after they’ve softly dipped and dithered around trying to avoid blocks or “over committing”. 
 

 

But also...just lol. I’m glad with whatever we get really. But it just shows how flailing and desperate the outgoing regime was. Slapping expensive bandaids on serious holes in the roster. When, if you have the right coaching in place...you can (at least hopefully) stopgap some of those positions with a random body off the street who can do a better job. 

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12 minutes ago, JiffyJag said:

I don’t think Schobert is any huge loss at this point but I do think it’s interesting to see the ragging on Caldwell for signing him as though signing him wasn’t almost universally praised by Jags fans last offseason lol

Oh I loved it. I like Schobert.

But how they deployed him (he was pretty meh last year) was atrocious and the defense going to a 3-4/wanting a “thumper” next to Jack who can go downhill is definitely the complete opposite of Scho.

Thought he’d be interesting in this type of scheme with his pass rush ability but he also ideally would play the role Myles does.

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43 minutes ago, JiffyJag said:

I don’t think Schobert is any huge loss at this point but I do think it’s interesting to see the ragging on Caldwell for signing him as though signing him wasn’t almost universally praised by Jags fans last offseason lol

He had the second worst missed tackle rate in the entire NFL in 2019 before we signed him. Signing him to be the downhill MLB who is required to be a sure tackler for Jack to roam behind him was always a bad fit. Scho might be a good player, and might have been good value at the price we got him, but he was an awful fit for what we actually needed to do, and a prime example of the way Dave Caldwell just often signed players with no regard towards building a cohesive team. He had shown every reason in 2019 why he couldn’t play the role the team had in mind for him, and yet they did it anyway. 

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47 minutes ago, pwny said:

He had the second worst missed tackle rate in the entire NFL in 2019 before we signed him. Signing him to be the downhill MLB who is required to be a sure tackler for Jack to roam behind him was always a bad fit. Scho might be a good player, and might have been good value at the price we got him, but he was an awful fit for what we actually needed to do, and a prime example of the way Dave Caldwell just often signed players with no regard towards building a cohesive team. He had shown every reason in 2019 why he couldn’t play the role the team had in mind for him, and yet they did it anyway. 

This is it, exactly. 
 

I don’t think a lot of people were vehemently opposed to the signing per se...but there were plenty of questions asked about exactly how a “poor mans Jack” was going to somehow fix the LBer corps. Even as it was at the time, in that particular scheme. It never really made any sense.

 

We lost a thumper in Poz and a flying downhill impact stud in Telvin...and their solution was confusing, because it involved a LBer who suffered the same weaknesses and Myles. 
 

It was just a strange contract to go big on. Given the actual needs of the team at the time. And now, in a new scheme...it’s even more apparent. But it’s fundamentally still the same problem. It’s that schobert is a poor mans version of Myles Jack. And having two of that player doesn’t make sense in any scheme. 

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