NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Oh really? Then why does it keep happening? And Ridder's actual play is really good. You've self-admittedly seen him for less than 10 quarters lol. Josh Allen is one of the few cases that it has happened, most highly drafted QB's that are good were balling in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyPhil1781 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Yeah if you need a franchise QB this year... Carr better not tank this season lol. Don't think he will but **** happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Did Baker Mayfield have great tools? Did Kyler Murray have great tools? Obviously you have to have a strong arm, etc to be selected high but there are a lot of QB's with good physical tools. Being a good NFL QB takes 100x more than that. Mayfield? No. Murray, absolutely. Murray's arm strength and athleticism are elite. Now you mention Mayfield, I mention Sam Bradford, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, I could go on. Great tools get you drafted a lot more than collegiate production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, BobbyPhil1781 said: Carr better not tank this season lol. Don't think he will but **** happens Gruden hates young QB's, we'll sign some old QB if we move on from Carr. Ideally Aaron Rodgers but likely Fitzpatrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Mayfield? No. Murray, absolutely. Murray's arm strength and athleticism are elite. Now you mention Mayfield, I mention Sam Bradford, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, I could go on. Great tools get you drafted a lot more than collegiate production. Murray wasn't even considered an NFL prospect heading into his final college season, he was set on playing baseball. Bradford won a Heisman trophy at a big program, Newton won a Heisman and a natty at a huge program, and Luck was a two time 1st team All-American and two time Heisman finalist at a Power 5 school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Let's go Cincy!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Josh Allen is one of the few cases that it has happened, most highly drafted QB's that are good were balling in college. Yeah, as if Ridder isn't "balling" in college. You've seen 2.5 games of him. You have no room to talk about this right now lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Ridder nation we back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Murray wasn't even considered an NFL prospect heading into his final college season, he was set on playing baseball. Bradford won a Heisman trophy at a big program, Newton won a Heisman and a natty at a huge program, and Luck was a two time 1st team All-American and two time Heisman finalist at a Power 5 school. They all were tooled out prospects. Newton's athleticism and size were elite, Bradford's arm and accuracy were elite, Luck was tooled out to the gills. That's the point I'm making. How is this so hard for you? I'm talking about tools and you're adding **** that I'm not talking about whatsoever because it's what you do in an attempt to "be right" which you must be at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, beekay414 said: Yeah, as if Ridder isn't "balling" in college. You've seen 2.5 games of him. You have no room to talk about this right now lol. 63 TD, 21 INT, 60% comp at an AAC school. Newton, Bradford, Luck, Baker, and Murray were all arguably the best player in CFB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Ridder is Ryan Tannehill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, beekay414 said: They all were tooled out prospects. Newton's athleticism and size were elite, Bradford's arm and accuracy were elite, Luck was tooled out to the gills. That's the point I'm making. How is this so hard for you? I'm talking about tools and you're adding **** that I'm not talking about whatsoever because it's what you do in an attempt to "be right" which you must be at all times. They had all those tools which led to winning trophies, being All-Americans, and team success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 That was a huge targeting call that seems liked it changed everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: 63 TD, 21 INT, 60% comp at an AAC school. Newton, Bradford, Luck, Baker, and Murray were all arguably the best player in CFB. Now do his junior and senior year numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Just now, beekay414 said: Ridder is Ryan Tannehill. Miami or Tennessee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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