Nabbs4u Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 9:54 AM, ET80 said: Randy Moss is 2nd only to Jerry Rice, IMO. Pretty much. Don't even think it's that debatable really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 12:23 PM, RandyMossIsBoss said: Definitely tough. Holt and Smith are the only ones that I can just easily cut out of the conversation. Andre and Julio are next to go when I narrow it down but I mean they are 1st ballot caliber players in their own right so it's not easy. Leaves us with Moss, TO, Marvin, Fitz, Calvin and AB. I think it's Moss. At his best there was just nobody like him and he produced with a variety of QBs. Next I have Fitz, whose longevity is only matched by Rice, and who managed to produce despite very few years of quality QB play. Moss Fitz TO Calvin AB Marvin I like this list but I would flip Calvin and AB and that's exactly how I would have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 On 9/16/2021 at 3:18 PM, Danger said: 1. Rice 2. Owens 3. Moss 4. Calvin Johnson 5. Marvin Harrison Many others. Same. Moss kinda has that Barry Sanders quality - in that every year we age further past his prime, the more "big fish" the legend of Moss/Sanders is. Moss was a freak. But he was also a cry baby who quit on teams when he didnt get his way. TO was a major head-case as well, but no one ever questions his effort on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 SINCE 2000 Randy Moss 186 games, 12566 yards, 128 TD, 4 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro Antonio Brown 140 games, 11867 yards, 80 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 4 All Pro Calvin Johnson 135 games, 11619 yards, 83 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro T. Owens 157 games, 12627 yards, 123 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 5 All Pro Larry Fitzgerald 263 games, 17492 yards, 121 TD, 11 Pro Bowl, 1 All Pro Marvin Harrison 130 games, 10439 yards, 95 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro Julio Jones 136 games, 12925 yards, 60 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, SBLIII said: SINCE 2000 Randy Moss 186 games, 12566 yards, 128 TD, 4 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro Antonio Brown 140 games, 11867 yards, 80 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 4 All Pro Calvin Johnson 135 games, 11619 yards, 83 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro T. Owens 157 games, 12627 yards, 123 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 5 All Pro Larry Fitzgerald 263 games, 17492 yards, 121 TD, 11 Pro Bowl, 1 All Pro Marvin Harrison 130 games, 10439 yards, 95 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro Julio Jones 136 games, 12925 yards, 60 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro You look at this and TO still jumps out to #1. Yards and TD per game is nearly the best, not to add the most all pro's along with 6 probowls in 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, SBLIII said: SINCE 2000 Larry Fitzgerald 263 games, 17492 yards, 121 TD, 11 Pro Bowl, 1 All Pro Wait, how does this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) Moss Owens AB/Megatron In that order. Edited September 20, 2021 by Bullet Club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Matts4313 said: Same. Moss kinda has that Barry Sanders quality - in that every year we age further past his prime, the more "big fish" the legend of Moss/Sanders is. Moss was a freak. But he was also a cry baby who quit on teams when he didnt get his way. TO was a major head-case as well, but no one ever questions his effort on the field. It's kind of a pick your poison - player who really isn't THAT big of a problem, but will pout and slack off on the field OR player who gives 100% every play, every down, but will create an enormous public disturbance after 2 yrs? The best bet with TO was to sign him for 4 yrs and trade him halfway through the contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, Mr Bad Example said: It's kind of a pick your poison - player who really isn't THAT big of a problem, but will pout and slack off on the field OR player who gives 100% every play, every down, but will create an enormous public disturbance after 2 yrs? The best bet with TO was to sign him for 4 yrs and trade him halfway through the contract. And conversely, the best bet for Moss was you had a HOF caliber QB and a coach that he liked. Because if he isnt happy, he doesnt perform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr Bad Example said: Wait, how does this happen? Because of the Frank Gore effect. He was only elite-ish for like the mid-late 00's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 15 hours ago, Mr Bad Example said: Wait, how does this happen? Thats what happens when you are the ~5th best WR in the NFL most years for the last 2 decades. You put up a HOF stats without All pro recognition. Happens to a lot of great players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bad Example Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 51 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Thats what happens when you are the ~5th best WR in the NFL most years for the last 2 decades. You put up a HOF stats without All pro recognition. Happens to a lot of great players. Same reason Staubach, best QB of the 70s, was never All-Pro or MVP. Always one of the best, just every year someone else was a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RabidPanther89 Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 Prime for prime Moss TO Calvin Julio AB Steve Smith (y’all get mad) Torry Holt Andre Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Marvin Harrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 People seriously arguing Tyreek Hill > TO?? Gen Z.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mission27 Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 9/19/2021 at 12:56 PM, SBLIII said: SINCE 2000 Randy Moss 186 games, 12566 yards, 128 TD, 4 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro Antonio Brown 140 games, 11867 yards, 80 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 4 All Pro Calvin Johnson 135 games, 11619 yards, 83 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 3 All Pro T. Owens 157 games, 12627 yards, 123 TD, 6 Pro Bowl, 5 All Pro Larry Fitzgerald 263 games, 17492 yards, 121 TD, 11 Pro Bowl, 1 All Pro Marvin Harrison 130 games, 10439 yards, 95 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro Julio Jones 136 games, 12925 yards, 60 TD, 7 Pro Bowl, 2 All Pro Moss and TO with the most TDs even though they were already the best receivers in the league by 1998... crazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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