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The biggest takeaway from yesterday for me, and clearly many others, was Joe Woods’ defense looking completely unprepared and underwhelming.  I’ve given him a pass for last season due to our talent deficiencies, but we’re reaching a point where there shouldn’t be many more excuses.

I have a couple issues that I’m just not understanding.  
 

1.  I haven’t seen a ton of JOK.  I don’t expect a rookie to fix a defense, but I do at least expect a top 50 pick to be getting reps, especially when thrown into this rag tag mix of nobodies at linebacker.  Seeing as how we have played two mobile QB’s thus far (and maybe a third next Sunday), I would have like to have seen more concepts with JOK playing a soft zone in the middle of the field with spy responsibilities.  Isn’t that part of why we got this dude?  To be that sideline to sideline eraser against those types of QB’s?

2. The conservative schemes.  I don’t need Rex Ryan 2.0, but we need to be doing more to pressure offenses, especially yesterday. More blitzing, more press, etc.  We’ve got a pair of first round corners, a second rounder, and a proven slot guy.  Let them do their thing, stop playing them so far off the line.

So have at it boys, what are your issues?

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Don't know if it looked like this on TV, but in person, it seemed like we were scrambling the whole game to get lined up correctly. Seemed like the LB's and DB's were always chattering and pointing. When the ball was snapped, we were rarely set. Not good.

Not having Walker didn't help, I'm sure. Don't know who had the green dot yesterday, but I don't think it went very well.

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5 minutes ago, ReggieCamp said:

The main scheme thing that was driving me crazy was playing man without ever pressing their receivers. Their guys were not big, and both Ward and Newsome are more than capable of playing press man, but we stayed far away from them, even in man coverage. Don't understand that at all.

I’d get it if we were playing a team with some beastly receivers, but we really should expect our talent at corner to win those matchups. 
 

Especially with what they trotted out at QB.

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Agree with many points here. Not just the lack of press, but the soft zone and the huge space we give receivers when playing off the line. Outside of Cooks, that team has no WR of real worth. You have 3 solid CB's, man them up and lets go. 

Pass rush was also a huge disappointment yesterday. Myles gets doubled all the time, so tough to get down on him. 

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4 minutes ago, nugpimpen said:

Pass rush was also a huge disappointment yesterday. Myles gets doubled all the time, so tough to get down on him. 

idk if it’s just his philosophy or if he’s overestimated the DL talent, but this doesn’t look to be a group that’s just going to line up and whip people’s *****.

Myles is that dude, but Clowney has never been a great pass rusher, Takk has some burst but never produced a ton, McDowell was a street FA who hadn’t played in 4 years and Jackson is a rotational vet.

Youre gonna have to keep teams guessing to some degree with either sending a 5th rusher or some zone blitz concepts (which is what created Delpit’s sack iirc).

Maybe he’s understand that, we’ll see next week I suppose. If Fields is starting I expect a lot of crazy looks, pressure, press, etc.

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Cover 3 and Cover 4 have their place, but not when our LB are THAT BAD and our secondary is built to be a man/press man on the outside unit. Soft zone should NOT be used on 3rd and 4th down, and the fact that we waited until the 4th quarter to give any semblance of an "exotic" look in those situations is completely ridiculous.

Personnel is NOT an excuse in the secondary or DL.

We have some X factor types in spy, rush, and coverage for those exact situations (Delpit and JOK), and our nickel/dime is really rock solid on paper (Ward, Williams, Hill, and Newsome in Dime, with Delpit and JOK having the ability to play both as well).

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5 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Cover 3 and Cover 4 have their place, but not when our LB are THAT BAD and our secondary is built to be a man/press man on the outside unit. Soft zone should NOT be used on 3rd and 4th down, and the fact that we waited until the 4th quarter to give any semblance of an "exotic" look in those situations is completely ridiculous.

Personnel is NOT an excuse in the secondary or DL.

We have some X factor types in spy, rush, and coverage for those exact situations (Delpit and JOK), and our nickel/dime is really rock solid on paper (Ward, Williams, Hill, and Newsome in Dime, with Delpit and JOK having the ability to play both as well).

Yeah if you just want to play soft zone and expect your DL to kick everyone’s ***, you need to be investing in DL, not DB. When you go all in on the DB, let them do what they do and win their matchups.

It just seems like a mismatch between scheme and personnel.

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2 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said:

It’s really disappointing to have such a glaring weak link on this team that should be a contender. We can’t win with him. 

I mean, we can if he actually makes the necessary changes.

The only question is will he?  It’s early and there’s certainly a chance he does, but it needs to happen soon.

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3 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said:

I mean, we can if he actually makes the necessary changes.

The only question is will he?  It’s early and there’s certainly a chance he does, but it needs to happen soon.

He hasn’t changed anything in the year and 2 games he’s been here. He hasn’t adapted to the talent he has and had time to adjust for all offseason. Some coaches just don’t change. 

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Just now, sdrawkcab321 said:

He hasn’t changed anything in the year and 2 games he’s been here. He hasn’t adapted to the talent he has and had time to adjust for all offseason. Some coaches just don’t change. 

For sure, but as I said last year, there was no scheme for that group.

He got a blank slate from me this year, but he’s not done much with it.

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