matt79511 Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, textaz03 said: would definitely like to see him get going and try and see if he can supplant AB Worth noting everyone placed on IR just prior to Week 1 is eligible to return next week- that's Joseph, Gallimore, Malik Turner, Josh Ball, Sean McKeon and Francis Bernard. While I wouldn't expect all of them to be activated, much less immediately contribute, some quality snaps from the first two in particular would go a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, matt79511 said: Worth noting everyone placed on IR just prior to Week 1 is eligible to return next week- that's Joseph, Gallimore, Malik Turner, Josh Ball, Sean McKeon and Francis Bernard. While I wouldn't expect all of them to be activated, much less immediately contribute, some quality snaps from the first two in particular would go a long way. Of that group, Joseph and Gallimore are the two who will likely see the most work. Edited September 24, 2021 by plan9misfit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDsportsfan Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 Just a talking head article. ESPN Analyst Sends Clear Message About Ezekiel Elliott (thespun.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextyearfordaboyz Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 5 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Of that group, Joseph and Gallimore are the two who will likely see the most work. Very ready to put Joseph out there as CB2 and just live with the growing pains. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plan9misfit Posted September 24, 2021 Share Posted September 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Very ready to put Joseph out there as CB2 and just live with the growing pains. Same here. Based on how poorly Brown has played, it’s virtually impossible for Joseph to perform any worse. I’d rather roll with the rookie and let him figure things out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northland Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 4 hours ago, Nextyearfordaboyz said: Very ready to put Joseph out there as CB2 and just live with the growing pains. We know what we have in Brown and he hasn't been good. Ride with the rookie and be patient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Not until the offseason of course, but what are the Cap ramifications for cutting Zeke outright? Not saying I want or don't want it, just curious of what the numbers would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
textaz03 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, resilient part 2 said: Not until the offseason of course, but what are the Cap ramifications for cutting Zeke outright? Not saying I want or don't want it, just curious of what the numbers would be. Spotrac has a Dead Cap hit of 30 mil (11 mil additional hit) next year if he’s cut but a 17 mil cap hit (500k savings) if designated a post June 1st 🙄 however goes down drastically after that Edited September 25, 2021 by textaz03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPJ Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 15 hours ago, plan9misfit said: Same here. Based on how poorly Brown has played, it’s virtually impossible for Joseph to perform any worse. I’d rather roll with the rookie and let him figure things out. Do you remember Daryl Worley last year? It can be worse. However I think Joseph is a big improvement over AB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 5 hours ago, textaz03 said: Spotrac has a Dead Cap hit of 30 mil (11 mil additional hit) next year if he’s cut but a 17 mil cap hit (500k savings) if designated a post June 1st 🙄 however goes down drastically after that I guess my next question would be is it even a decent possibility?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt79511 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, resilient part 2 said: I guess my next question would be is it even a decent possibility?? From the moment his extension was signed, Zeke has been uncuttable until 2023 due to the contract language of his guarantees. His ‘19 and ‘20 base salaries were guaranteed at signing (he was already signed for those years so kind of a nominal gesture) while his ‘21 and ‘22 bases were both guaranteed a year in advance (5th day of the ‘20 and ‘21 league years respectively), making them effectively guaranteed at signing even if they technically were not. Essentially no one in the NFL but QBs get those kind of protections that far out in non-rookie contracts. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 20 hours ago, matt79511 said: From the moment his extension was signed, Zeke has been uncuttable until 2023 due to the contract language of his guarantees. His ‘19 and ‘20 base salaries were guaranteed at signing (he was already signed for those years so kind of a nominal gesture) while his ‘21 and ‘22 bases were both guaranteed a year in advance (5th day of the ‘20 and ‘21 league years respectively), making them effectively guaranteed at signing even if they technically were not. Essentially no one in the NFL but QBs get those kind of protections that far out in non-rookie contracts. Sigh. thanks for the response.. i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 2:47 PM, matt79511 said: From the moment his extension was signed, Zeke has been uncuttable until 2023 due to the contract language of his guarantees. His ‘19 and ‘20 base salaries were guaranteed at signing (he was already signed for those years so kind of a nominal gesture) while his ‘21 and ‘22 bases were both guaranteed a year in advance (5th day of the ‘20 and ‘21 league years respectively), making them effectively guaranteed at signing even if they technically were not. Essentially no one in the NFL but QBs get those kind of protections that far out in non-rookie contracts. Sigh. Jerry had some Emmitt hold out flash back and panicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matts4313 Posted September 27, 2021 Author Share Posted September 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, D82 said: The scout I met a long time ago that told me we were drafting Martellus Bennett was named Brett. Wonder if its the same guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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