Woz Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, offbyone said: It is a crime they didn't even bring in competition during camp. Cause you are dead on, it is tough to find a kicker in October. Add it to the "maybe the coach shouldn't also be the GM" file. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Woz said: Add it to the "maybe the coach shouldn't also be the GM" file. Oh come on!!! That always works. I mean the NFL is littered with PLENTY of examples where it has worked in the last 100 years of professional football. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, Woz said: Add it to the "maybe the coach shouldn't also be the GM" file. To me it isn't even that. It is just bad player evaluation. Like at what point do you recognize collins isn't your best option. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Any word of them bringing in kickers for a look? Maybe some that can make extra points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Slappy Mc said: Any word of them bringing in kickers for a look? Maybe some that can make extra points. we just need to go for 2 every time . convert 50% -same as making all the kicks . 😝 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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e16bball Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 I’m something of a Hopkins apologist, as you all know. At least in the sense that I will continue to reiterate that a below-average full-time NFL kicker is still better than most/all of the guys languishing out on the street looking for a job. The big thing I don’t understand is why they didn’t have a kicker in camp and don’t have a kicker on the PS. What’s the harm with this? Bring in as much talent to test out as possible. No one could reasonably look at Hopkins the way you might look at a guy like Tress Way — where it’s absolutely pointless to bring in street FAs because there’s no chance they beat out the incumbent. There are plenty of kickers in the world better than Dustin Hopkins, and as much I suspect that the vast majority of those guys are already gainfully employed elsewhere, there’s always a chance you might latch onto one who has thus far slipped through the cracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, e16bball said: I’m something of a Hopkins apologist, as you all know. At least in the sense that I will continue to reiterate that a below-average full-time NFL kicker is still better than most/all of the guys languishing out on the street looking for a job. The big thing I don’t understand is why they didn’t have a kicker in camp and don’t have a kicker on the PS. What’s the harm with this? Bring in as much talent to test out as possible. No one could reasonably look at Hopkins the way you might look at a guy like Tress Way — where it’s absolutely pointless to bring in street FAs because there’s no chance they beat out the incumbent. There are plenty of kickers in the world better than Dustin Hopkins, and as much I suspect that the vast majority of those guys are already gainfully employed elsewhere, there’s always a chance you might latch onto one who has thus far slipped through the cracks. Yup. I'm of two minds. One is that I like to see guys play through slumps. Like pitching in baseball. Or hitting in baseball for that matter. But the other mind tells me that at some point, you gotta "cut bait" and treat the FG kicker as if you would any other position. The problem is that if you wanted to "bench" a kicker, you can't. You gotta cut them to see who else is out there. When there are limited roster spots for players (P, K, QB) I'd like to see, at some point, a variation of what I offered before in the way of locked roster spots for an "extra" player at that position. These would be extra spots that the team could carry that could not be raided like the PS. But would practice and develop with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 22 hours ago, offbyone said: To me it isn't even that. It is just bad player evaluation. Like at what point do you recognize collins isn't your best option. Because you see him day in and day out putting in the work in front of you. He's doing everything you ask of him in practice. You're close with him. And that's the problem: Bill Belichick being a notable exception, coaches cannot separate the player as a person from the player in terms of plus and minuses to the team. It's why some of railed against giving Rivera final roster control. Sometimes you need someone to be the "bad guy" and it's a lot easier if it is someone in the "front office" instead of the guy who you've been busting your tail in front of for months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: When there are limited roster spots for players (P, K, QB) I'd like to see, at some point, a variation of what I offered before in the way of locked roster spots for an "extra" player at that position. These would be extra spots that the team could carry that could not be raided like the PS. But would practice and develop with the team. Until that time, though, you have to put someone on the practice squad to push the guy on the active roster. The fact they don't have anyone, especially in the era of COVID restrictions, is borderline irresponsible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Woz said: Sometimes you need someone to be the "bad guy" and it's a lot easier if it is someone in the "front office" instead of the guy who you've been busting your tail in front of for months. If anyone has seen the movie "Moneyball" there's a great scene where Brad Pitt is trying to teach Jonah Hill how to tell someone they've been let go, traded, moved down to minors, etc... The first few moments of this are what we're not getting with the Coach-as-GM dynamic we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Woz said: Until that time, though, you have to put someone on the practice squad to push the guy on the active roster. The fact they don't have anyone, especially in the era of COVID restrictions, is borderline irresponsible. Absolutely agree with you and @e16bball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 Chris Blewitt signed to Practice Squad . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: Chris Blewitt signed to Practice Squad . His name is off putting... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 So we sign a new kicker……named Blewitt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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