berlin calling Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Have the Saints given up on the season yet? May want to spare us a tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Apparition said: On that note, what's going on with Ty'son Williams? Is he in Harbaugh's doghouse? Yep. The word around the clubhouse is that they didn't like his pass blocking, so they benched him for aging veterans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Bucs should trade for Darius Slay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw4bucs Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, RandyMossIsBoss said: Bucs should trade for Darius Slay. Has he been that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djw4bucs Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, Apparition said: Would the Bucs pony up a 2nd for Gilmore? hmm Maybe, very unlikely tho unless they aren’t sure we can keep all of our current starters (when healthy) cause all are still on rookie deals. Licht would 100% just draft a rookie with a 2nd next year if we lose a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, djw4bucs said: Has he been that bad? No, he’s solid. Probably an above average starter. Just no reason for us to keep an aging vet like him if we can get picks. We are in a rebuild, by time we are competitive in a few years (hopefully) Slay might not even be in the league anymore, CBs do not age well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 someone is going to make out like bandits and get a nice overpay from TB for a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Apparition said: Would the Bucs pony up a 2nd for Gilmore? hmm Dont think they have the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I don't know a whole lot about the cap and how it works when a player is traded, but who could the Bucs trade for that would both be A) worth it to them and B) affordable? Too bad there isn't an NFL Trade Machine like ESPN's NBA one. But like could they actually afford Darius Slay without giving up an important piece? Mike Evans would make the most sense if they were to do a player for player trade, but not sure if Brady would be for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChazStandard said: Dont think they have the cap. They don't. I think they could make room for Slay but not Gilmore. Besides that, I doubt Gilmore agrees to play anywhere else without a new contract anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Washington needs a linebacker and a corner, but I assume we will just go the FA route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondbull424 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Bucs should trade Ronald Jones to the Ravens for like Jimmy Smith or something. Please no. I certainly would hope we wouldn’t want to trade Jimmy Smith, a versatile corner that can cover TEs and bigger bodied WRs pretty well… for a mediocre RB? Smith plays the more valuable position and even if he’s not what he once was, we’re not exactly as deep as we once were at corner and he’s very capable. Would be a foolish trade. Ronald Jones isn’t any better a runner than LevBell IMO. Not to mention Smith has clearly just been taking team friendly deals the last couple years with the hope of riding off into the sunset with a SB win. He’s one of the OG Lamar believers and a noted team leader. That would make such a deal even worse. ——— If anything I’d be far more inclined to trade an underachieving LB like Patrick Queen, who might have some legit value to a team that can afford to spend the time to develop him (not a contender) and/or might feel he’d be the ideal scheme fit for their system (as more of a 43 OLB type), in a deal to secure some OT improvement. Perhaps a deal with the Eagles for Andre Dillard could be mutually beneficial. Both were former 1st round picks that have struggled for one reason or another. Dillard has one less year on his deal, so while he has enhanced positional value, perhaps something straight up would work for both teams once their starting LT comes back. Not sure how I’d feel about giving up on Queen so early, but if the end result is a boost to the OL that should also boost the rushing attack, while also giving Lamar more time in the pocket on a consistent basis; then I think I could sleep soundly knowing it wasn’t at least a bad decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 56 minutes ago, iknowcool said: I don't know a whole lot about the cap and how it works when a player is traded, but who could the Bucs trade for that would both be A) worth it to them and B) affordable? If you trade a player, any remaining signing bonus gets accelerated. There's lots of nuances here and in the past - those remaining bonus dollars prevented trades from happening. But now what is happening is that teams are willing to eat some of that money to make the trade happen. Either the trading team or the acquiring team will take on some of the cash to make it happen. We've seen that in about a dozen trades so far. In the past, the money was a show-stopper- now its just part of the negotiation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, diamondbull424 said: Please no. I certainly would hope we wouldn’t want to trade Jimmy Smith, a versatile corner that can cover TEs and bigger bodied WRs pretty well… for a mediocre RB? Smith plays the more valuable position and even if he’s not what he once was, we’re not exactly as deep as we once were at corner and he’s very capable. Would be a foolish trade. Ronald Jones isn’t any better a runner than LevBell IMO. Not to mention Smith has clearly just been taking team friendly deals the last couple years with the hope of riding off into the sunset with a SB win. He’s one of the OG Lamar believers and a noted team leader. That would make such a deal even worse. ——— If anything I’d be far more inclined to trade an underachieving LB like Patrick Queen, who might have some legit value to a team that can afford to spend the time to develop him (not a contender) and/or might feel he’d be the ideal scheme fit for their system (as more of a 43 OLB type), in a deal to secure some OT improvement. Perhaps a deal with the Eagles for Andre Dillard could be mutually beneficial. Both were former 1st round picks that have struggled for one reason or another. Dillard has one less year on his deal, so while he has enhanced positional value, perhaps something straight up would work for both teams once their starting LT comes back. Not sure how I’d feel about giving up on Queen so early, but if the end result is a boost to the OL that should also boost the rushing attack, while also giving Lamar more time in the pocket on a consistent basis; then I think I could sleep soundly knowing it wasn’t at least a bad decision. Queen for Miles Sanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 hours ago, berlin calling said: Have the Saints given up on the season yet? May want to spare us a tackle. Lol we were literally just an OT loss away from being tied for 1st place in the NFC South. Don't think that will be happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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