offbyone Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 minute ago, turtle28 said: We had an assistant trainer, he could’ve just been given the job as the acting head trainer, of course that guy is now on administrative leave as well bc perhaps they want to find out what he knows as well. You know the problem this whole thing brings to the forefront is the buddy buddy hiring practices in the nfl and particularly of Rivera. He got rid of pretty much every outside voice of consequence and then brought in a whole heap of his besties. That works out good if everyone is on the up and up. But when you have a problem like this it backfires. Clearly the assistant trainer is buddies with the trainer who is buddies with Rivera and so basically you have no divergent voices or opinions or someone to turn to if something goes wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, MikeT14 said: Isn't what's his name already here? Sounds like we kinda did have a backup plan? Bubba is helping out. Bubba is a redskins legend. I don't want to come off disrespectful but he is 80 years old... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, offbyone said: You know the problem this whole thing brings to the forefront is the buddy buddy hiring practices in the nfl and particularly of Rivera. He got rid of pretty much every outside voice of consequence and then brought in a whole heap of his besties. That works out good if everyone is on the up and up. But when you have a problem like this it backfires. Clearly the assistant trainer is buddies with the trainer who is buddies with Rivera and so basically you have no divergent voices or opinions or someone to turn to if something goes wrong. It’s definitely a league wide thing. Bruce & Shanahan did the same things. Marty & Gibbs did also. It’s not exclusive to Rivera. A decade ago we had jokes when someone was hired, how were they linked to Tampa bc Brice was there, just as we do today with Rivera & Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 hours ago, offbyone said: I don't think a team should normally do this. But this was not a normal situation. Rivera learned R.V. was under investigation this summer. At this point, you need to put the team first, above his friendship. The smart thing would have been to put Vermillion on some kind of administrative leave and find an alternate trainer or at least a temporary one. I really don't understand how Rivera did not take this seriously when WFT was undergoing some major other investigations this summer. That being the case, someone with good judgment would have treated this very seriously. Rivera chose not to do anything. Much like he watches blown coverages from the same players week after week, and does nothing. This is the take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 WFT offered money in exchange for public silence about workplace, former employees say https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/10/13/wft-ndas-women-employees-workplace/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, turtle28 said: WFT offered money in exchange for public silence about workplace, former employees say https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/10/13/wft-ndas-women-employees-workplace/ I think you got the wrong thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 2:58 PM, RSkinGM said: You hav a pic of a HOT mess 😊 Will this do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 11:44 PM, naptownskinsfan said: I think you got the wrong thread. To be fair, there are so many threads with **** going wrong around this team, it's hard to keep them straight at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Woz said: To be fair, there are so many threads with **** going wrong around this team, it's hard to keep them straight at times. Basically, I could’ve picked any number of 5 threads, including ones that are from the summer. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So how long can you keep a man ( or woman ) from his her job without charging them with something !? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offbyone Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, RSkinGM said: So how long can you keep a man ( or woman ) from his her job without charging them with something !? Lets say charges gets dropped, lack of evidence or whatever. What do we do being WFT is already roiling with controversy? Do we not stay on the cautious side of the line here and move on from him? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSkinGM Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, offbyone said: Lets say charges gets dropped, lack of evidence or whatever. What do we do being WFT is already roiling with controversy? Do we not stay on the cautious side of the line here and move on from him? Probably Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/16/2021 at 11:57 AM, Woz said: To be fair, there are so many threads with **** going wrong around this team, it's hard to keep them straight at times. I really do need to make one Omnibus " Clearing House" thread, huh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 hours ago, offbyone said: Lets say charges gets dropped, lack of evidence or whatever. What do we do being WFT is already roiling with controversy? Do we not stay on the cautious side of the line here and move on from him? Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 4 hours ago, offbyone said: Lets say charges gets dropped, lack of evidence or whatever. What do we do being WFT is already roiling with controversy? Do we not stay on the cautious side of the line here and move on from him? This is largely tongue in cheek, but at what point do you just accept that you’re the bad guys and roll with that moving forward? Stop trying to please people and win the PR game, just sell out to win football games. This guy’s a great trainer? Keep him until he goes to prison. We’re not running a role model factory over here. Bring back Gregg Williams to coach the defense. The two G’s are both for “genius,” not for “good guy.” Football has gotten soft anyway, why are we hung up on trying to protect the other team’s guys now? That’s their job. We always wanted Jon Gruden over Jay, and now we have the chance to get him for 1/10 of the price the Raiders had to give him. Sure, he’s toxic right now, but the PC overcorrection pendulum is going to swing back his way soon enough. Bring back Scotty Mac to play the Mayock role and we’re really in business. Trade for Deshaun Watson. Price can’t be any lower, and he’s an awesome player. We deserve one since we lost RGIII like we did, the game owes us a great QB. He’s probably not going to get charged criminally, and let’s be honest, a lot of those ladies probably secretly wanted to see his junk anyway. Every embattled and disruptive superstar should be linked to us. We’ve never mastered the art of balancing talent and chemistry/character like some of these teams can. And at this point, it seems we almost certainly never will. So if you have to choose one or the other — give me the one that puts points on the board and W’s in the win column. Get Snyder a cloak and force him to stop his skin care regimen, he could really blossom into something in his later years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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