MOSteelers56 Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 This class makes me want to draft a mid round QB and sign a Vet. I like Ridder, but he’s going to go too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 24, 2021 Share Posted October 24, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: This class makes me want to draft a mid round QB and sign a Vet. I like Ridder, but he’s going to go too high. Can I interest you in a Roethlisberger clone and Walter Payon Award winning QB named Cole Kelly? https://lionsports.net/sports/football/roster/cole-kelley/8690 If you would like a smaller more mobile prospect we have Eric Barriere https://goeags.com/sports/football/roster/eric-barriere/7479 Edited October 24, 2021 by jebrick 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 1:32 AM, jebrick said: If Picket had a better arm he would go higher. His arm is like Rudolph's. Agree. Having a great season, but he's no more promising than Rudolph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted October 26, 2021 Author Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 10/25/2021 at 2:39 AM, jebrick said: Can I interest you in a Roethlisberger clone and Walter Payon Award winning QB named Cole Kelly? https://lionsports.net/sports/football/roster/cole-kelley/8690 If you would like a smaller more mobile prospect we have Eric Barriere https://goeags.com/sports/football/roster/eric-barriere/7479 I love you keep selling this guy. I still like C.Strong, but now I'll watch some highlights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 If Kelly were doing bad this season I would not be pushing. He will get overlooked due to LOC much like Roethlisberger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Kelley reminds me of and NFL Cam. Just a big, physical dude that can bowl people over, but isn't a running QB. I can't remember Ben at Miami, so maybe that's an apt comparison too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Ben, out of college was less of a runner ( but could run) but had tremendous accuracy. Kelly and Roethlisberger are very very similar. Others have said that Ben was more athletic than Kelly but YMMV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 5 hours ago, mwalker said: I love you keep selling this guy. I still like C.Strong, but now I'll watch some highlights... I am going to guess that the Steelers will NOT have a top 10 pick this year. Because none QBs have really stood out, I would assume that Riddler and Strong go in the top 10. Willis is a wildcard. Corral could go in top 10 but I think he slides because of height. If they do not love any of those 4 then take a chance on these others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfollett Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 I've watched Strong for a couple of games, and he is a statue back there. He has a nice arm, but I am not sure he can move enough in the NFL to use it. I've watched Kelley a little bit too, and I like his mobility and arm strength, but I see more Cam in him than I see young Ben. In college and early in his NFL career, Ben would escape the pocket and throw on the run. When Kelley runs, he tucks the ball and gets up field. Two guys I think would be good for the Steelers are Ridder and Pickett in the 2nd round. A lot of teams need QBs (as usual), so these guys could go in the 1st. If Kelley is there in the 3rd, why not? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 26, 2021 Share Posted October 26, 2021 Pickett is Rudolph with a better pocket presence. His arm will let down the team that drafts him as the starter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 5 hours ago, jebrick said: Pickett is Rudolph with a better pocket presence. His arm will let down the team that drafts him as the starter. Quoting your post, but responding to a few above... Agree on your Pickett comp. Great season, but just don't think he's starter material in the NFL. I don't think Ridder or Strong are top 10 picks. No way. Maybe M.Willis (I wouldn't) There's too many talented lineman and defensive players in this draft with average QBs. I think we'll pick somewhere closer to mid teens. So I think we could get a look at... M.Corral (maybe. might just be a college QB)), S.Howell (maybe. could be a system guy.) D.Ridder (his accuracy really worries me), C.Strong (yes, a statue, but has a canon with accuracy). M.Willis is a real wildcard. Guy is special as an athlete and has a big arm, but the lack of starts (competition) worries me. Someone will take a flyer early though. I'm not convinced we draft a QB, which sounds crazy, I know, but I think OT, OG, CB, S (if Edmunds leaves) are bigger needs. I'd be very curious what we do if the DTs D.Leal and J.Davis are available, with our aging DLine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 11 hours ago, mwalker said: I'm not convinced we draft a QB, which sounds crazy, I know, but I think OT, OG, CB, S (if Edmunds leaves) are bigger needs. I'd be very curious what we do if the DTs D.Leal and J.Davis are available, with our aging DLine. I think you're right on this one. I don't think we'll draft a subpar QB just because we have a need. I hope Artie Burns is seared into their minds regarding that. This team can reload in the draft. I think we'll end up with a nice couple of comps. We need to bolster the trenches, especially the D-line. Don't write off ILB as a need. Bush is shaky and Schobert isn't a lock to be back. We really need some big uglies on the D-line. I'd love to look for a DT/DE guy, someone 320+. We need someone that can push the pocket and can clog the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August4th Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 also imagine Canada would like a mobile QB for his offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Canada would be fine with Ben circa 2004. He does not need Lamar Jackson to make it work Riddler's accuracy is correctable. If they are drafting Josh Allen high, then Riddler is a top 10 pick. I am totally for building a great team before getting the QB but I would still take a lower risk pick on Kelly or Barriere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwalker Posted October 27, 2021 Author Share Posted October 27, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, jebrick said: Canada would be fine with Ben circa 2004. He does not need Lamar Jackson to make it work Riddler's accuracy is correctable. If they are drafting Josh Allen high, then Riddler is a top 10 pick. I am totally for building a great team before getting the QB but I would still take a lower risk pick on Kelly or Barriere Don't know man, D.Ridder never dominates. J.Allen did. I see D.Ridder as more Jason Campbell. Edited October 27, 2021 by mwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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