Apparition Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Or rather, why is their defense so bad? The offense is pretty self-explanatory. But the defense was supposed to be one of the better up-and-coming units in the league, with guys like Howard, Wilkins, Byron Jones, Ogbah, and now Jaelan Phillips in the mix, plus their hotshot young defensive coach. And yet they can't seem to stop a nosebleed, and are a Damien Harris fumble away from being 0-5. So what's going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 No Fitzmagic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Amassing draft picks doesn’t matter if you don’t draft the right guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 It's not as bad as it seems, I think. Middle of the pack in dvoa (and on the right side of 0), middle of the pack in yards per play. Getting some takeaways. Middle of the pack in red zone td conversions. They are getting killed on third / fourth down conversion, which you would hope would regress some and their offense can't keep the ball (bottom three entering today in TOP). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Forge said: It's not as bad as it seems, I think. Middle of the pack in dvoa (and on the right side of 0), middle of the pack in yards per play. Getting some takeaways. Middle of the pack in red zone td conversions. They are getting killed on third / fourth down conversion, which you would hope would regress some and their offense can't keep the ball (bottom three entering today in TOP). As Belichick says: stats are for losers, final score is for winners. Miami hasn't been able to stop their opponents from scoring and have gotten absolutely manhandled by Buffalo and Tampa. They even allowed Indy to nearly drop 30 on them. Meanwhile their offense is perpetually stuck in the mud because Tua is as fragile as a liberal's feelings and the supporting cast is as mediocre as him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Because of Adam Gase…oh wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, biggie. said: As Belichick says: stats are for losers, final score is for winners. Miami hasn't been able to stop their opponents from scoring and have gotten absolutely manhandled by Buffalo and Tampa. They even allowed Indy to nearly drop 30 on them. Apparently the op cares because he asked the question. And, yeah, win / loss records have never been misleading. They got thumped by two of the best offenses in football. I wouldn't have expected them to hold them back. Two of the scoring drives against the colts went a combined 7 yards. The scoring is out of whack with the numbers otherwise surrounding their performance, so something is due to regress, either the points or the data surrounding it. If the offense gets better, and I assume it will with tua, and as they head into a six game stretch that includes Atlanta, Jax and the jets and Houston, I would expect regression in a positive manner 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, biggie. said: Tua is as fragile as a liberal's feelings and the supporting cast is as mediocre as him. No place for this comment. Leave it at the door 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggie. Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, Forge said: Apparently the op cares because he asked the question. And, yeah, win / loss records have never been misleading. They got thumped by two of the best offenses in football. I wouldn't have expected them to hold them back. Two of the scoring drives against the colts went a combined 7 yards. The scoring is out of whack with the numbers otherwise surrounding their performance, so something is due to regress, either the points or the data surrounding it. If the offense gets better, and I assume it will with tua, and as they head into a six game stretch that includes Atlanta, Jax and the jets and Houston, I would expect regression in a positive manner It doesn't take rocket science or PFF mumbo jumbo stats to explain why a team is bad. Miami's third down defense is dead last. Their defense is tied for fifth in penalties. The only defense that has allowed more first downs is Seattle. They only have two interceptions. So you have an undisciplined defense that can't get off the field or make plays. Result is an overall bad defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, biggie. said: It doesn't take rocket science or PFF mumbo jumbo stats to explain why a team is bad. Miami's third down defense is dead last. Their defense is tied for fifth in penalties. The only defense that has allowed more first downs is Seattle. They only have two interceptions. So you have an undisciplined defense that can't get off the field or make plays. Result is an overall bad defense. *Criticizes my use of stats... Claims it doesn't take rocket science... Proceeds to use various data points and statistics to get point across, one of which I mentioned in my initial post* Cool 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJets4716 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 THey were never that good and they have done a lot of bad drafting with all those picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Anyway, OP, as I mentioned, bad start, I'd expect some positive regression in some aspects in the coming weeks. I don't think they are a top five defense or anything, but I don't think that they are as bad as they look right now either. I think there will be improvement statistically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYJets4716 said: THey were never that good and they have done a lot of bad drafting with all those picks. Yeah, they had since outlier stuff last year that probably made them seem better than they were during 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Thought they were slightly overrated the past year, to be quite honest. I wasn’t seeing all the Flores love like some others that said, they shouldn’t be 1-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 Because they were overrated to begin with. Yes the 10 wins looks great on paper but only 1 of those wins was against a team that finished with a winning record, they benefited from a super soft schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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