Official Broncos Forum 2022 Draft Prospects Thread

[broncos67]

10 hours ago, AKRNA said:

You guys know I don't follow college ball and pretty much rely on you to get me info on the ball players. I've got a few questions regarding QB.

Here's what I'm looking for:

No dual threat QB's, just not interested.  Very smart. Competitive. Strong leadership, team first traits. Good pocket presence with a bit of wiggle. Very accurate. NFL arm but doesn't need a canon. Coachable and a great locker room guy, popular with his teammates. A Mac Jones type.

Anyway, if you can think of any QB's with those traits let me know. After that I'll look at 'em but I need you guys as a filter.

Thanks!

 

 

I lean either Pickett or Howell. I would not necessarily classify them as "dual-threat" - I think that applies more to someone like Desmond Ridder. 

I personally like Pickett a lot. I think he can be really good in the right situation. I think a fair comparison is a poor man's Joe Burrow. Would also note, he's a 4 year starter and has progressed each season at Pitt. There's a lot to like, IMO.

[Cutler06]

11 hours ago, broncos67 said:

I lean either Pickett or Howell. I would not necessarily classify them as "dual-threat" - I think that applies more to someone like Desmond Ridder. 

I personally like Pickett a lot. I think he can be really good in the right situation. I think a fair comparison is a poor man's Joe Burrow. Would also note, he's a 4 year starter and has progressed each season at Pitt. There's a lot to like, IMO.

I would have to add Carson Strong to this list, from what I've read he has size, a strong arm and even some mobility. Have to check the level of competition but he passed at a 69% completion ratio and a 36/8 TD/Int ration. Also need to evaluate how quick his decision-making is, that competition level can also skew this but he was invited to the Senior Bowl, should be able to get an idea there.

[broncosfan_101]

1 hour ago, Cutler06 said:

I would have to add Carson Strong to this list, from what I've read he has size, a strong arm and even some mobility. Have to check the level of competition but he passed at a 69% completion ratio and a 36/8 TD/Int ration. Also need to evaluate how quick his decision-making is, that competition level can also skew this but he was invited to the Senior Bowl, should be able to get an idea there.

nice

[Scoundrel]

3 hours ago, Cutler06 said:

I would have to add Carson Strong to this list, from what I've read he has size, a strong arm and even some mobility. Have to check the level of competition but he passed at a 69% completion ratio and a 36/8 TD/Int ration. Also need to evaluate how quick his decision-making is, that competition level can also skew this but he was invited to the Senior Bowl, should be able to get an idea there.

His knees might not hold up. Will see how medicals go.

[AKRNA]

1 hour ago, broncosfan_101 said:

nice

Here's a guy I found that's really kinda interesting. Bailey Zappe  from WKU. here's a write up I found. 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bailey-zappe-western-kentucky-qb-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2022/

I'd never heard of him but should be interesting to watch him in the Senior Bowl.

[MontanaBronco]

On 12/14/2021 at 11:46 AM, broncofan48 said:

 

I’m biased but if Vic is still here and coaching a guy up I want Troy Anderson from Montana State in the 3rd/4th.  Dudes a physical freak and is a ball of clay for someone to mold at LB.

 

6’4, 240 pounds and quite possible running a sub 4.6 40

Troy had a massive game today in the FCS semifinal. As a Griz fan it pains me to admit he might be the most talented player to come out of Montana in quite some time. 

[broncos67]

On 12/17/2021 at 11:34 PM, AKRNA said:

Here's a guy I found that's really kinda interesting. Bailey Zappe  from WKU. here's a write up I found. 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/bailey-zappe-western-kentucky-qb-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2022/

I'd never heard of him but should be interesting to watch him in the Senior Bowl.

Zappe is a nice player but his level of competition is just trash. It's so hard to glean his NFL fit. He's a small guy too, who knows how/if that'll translate. I could see a team maybe take a flier on him in R2/R3, but I'm not sure he's long for the NFL.

[AKRNA]

20 minutes ago, broncos67 said:

Zappe is a nice player but his level of competition is just trash. It's so hard to glean his NFL fit. He's a small guy too, who knows how/if that'll translate. I could see a team maybe take a flier on him in R2/R3, but I'm not sure he's long for the NFL.

So, if you watch the Senior Bowl check him out and let me know. 

[broncofan48]

On 12/18/2021 at 9:25 PM, MontanaBronco said:

Troy had a massive game today in the FCS semifinal. As a Griz fan it pains me to admit he might be the most talented player to come out of Montana in quite some time. 

That 4th and 1 play when SDSU was on like the 10 going in was impressive.   That's a damn good RB who it looked like had the edge for not only a 1st, but a TD and Troy came out of nowhere for the TFL.   Swung momentum big time 

[broncosfan_101]

Nakobe Dean certainly looking like a potential top 15 pick tonight. I think between some combination of Jewell, AJ, Browning, and Young that the new coach will have a competent group of incumbents, but this has been impressive.

[broncosfan_101]

Lloyd Cushenberry sucks, and I’d be all over replacing him this off-season, but I feel like I speak for everyone when I say Tyler Linderbaum getting selected before our pick would be a gigantic blessing. I don’t care how good he is, picking a centre in the top 10 is lunacy. Him going before us just pushes another good player down for us.

[lomaxgrUK]

Rightly so, the focus of this team needs to be sorting the QB position.

However, there are still huge concerns in the trenches on Defense for me (I am including OLB pass rush here, too). I mentioned it last year, we did nothing to improve it so I am still mentioning it this year.

(Stats through week 16, I believe).

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32176833/2021-nfl-pass-rushing-run-stopping-blocking-leaderboard-win-rate-rankings

Obviously the advanced analytics aren't the 'be all and end all', but they paint a very accurate picture of where this team is in the trenches.

In Team Pass Rush Win Rate, they have us ranked 32nd of 32. 
In Team Run Stop Win Rate, they have us ranked 28th of 32.

This team needs players who consistently impact the backfield in BOTH the run and pass. Given the draft capital and/or money we're going to use for the QB, our scouting departments have to find us gem(s) to do this.

They are definitely out there. Those of you who read my film reviews last year may remember how much I liked Arden Key (Raiders, at the time) against us. He signed a 1 year, $1m deal with the 49ers and he's killing it at the moment. We are in dire need of these players. We don't need more rotational guys who just can't impact an Offense.

On Offense it isn't anywhere near as bad.

In Team Pass Block Win Rate, they have us ranked 19th of 32.
In Team Run Block Win Rate, they have us ranked 15th of 32.

Frankly, I'd have bit your arm off for that at the start of the year. We've got room for development in a relatively young OL too, so even though I am not fully against attempting to upgrade, it's nowhere near as important as the DL.

Edited January 4, 2022 by lomaxgrUK

[jolly red giant]

1 hour ago, lomaxgrUK said:

Obviously the advanced analytics aren't the 'be all and end all', but they paint a very accurate picture of where this team is in the trenches.

In Team Pass Rush Win Rate, they have us ranked 32nd of 32. 
In Team Run Stop Win Rate, they have us ranked 28th of 32.

This team needs players who consistently impact the backfield in BOTH the run and pass. Given the draft capital and/or money we're going to use for the QB, our scouting departments have to find us gem(s) to do this.

They are definitely out there. Those of you who read my film reviews last year may remember how much I liked Arden Key (Raiders, at the time) against us. He signed a 1 year, $1m deal with the 49ers and he's killing it at the moment. We are in dire need of these players. We don't need more rotational guys who just can't impact an Offense.

On Offense it isn't anywhere near as bad.

In Team Pass Block Win Rate, they have us ranked 19th of 32.
In Team Run Block Win Rate, they have us ranked 15th of 32.

Frankly, I'd have bit your arm off for that at the start of the year. We've got room for development in a relatively young OL too, so even though I am not fully against attempting to upgrade, it's nowhere near as important as the DL.

If we get a QB the offence is in very good shape - whatever resources are available in the draft should go to defence -

We need DL. OLB, (possibly) ILB, CB and S - there are a lot of pieces on the current defensive side of the ball that are out of contract - Young, Jewell, Johnson, Jackson, Fuller, Callahan, Reed, Weatherly, unless he ups his game I think Chubb mightn't be long for the team either and there is a question mark about keeping Darby.

[Broncofan]

6 minutes ago, jolly red giant said:

If we get a QB the offence is in very good shape - whatever resources are available in the draft should go to defence -

We need DL. OLB, (possibly) ILB, CB and S - there are a lot of pieces on the current defensive side of the ball that are out of contract - Young, Jewell, Johnson, Jackson, Fuller, Callahan, Reed, Weatherly, unless he ups his game I think Chubb mightn't be long for the team either and there is a question mark about keeping Darby.

Agree with you & @lomaxgrUK.   Darby FWIW isn’t going anywhere.   We either take an extra 2.5M this year with a straight release now or save 500K post-June 1 designation.    Unlikely he’s going anywhere given the $ barring trade and the gain there unless he’s in a much larger package unlikely to be worth it.   
 

Young and Weatherley should be affordable enough.   The big gap is going to be pass rush / trench support as @lomaxgrUK covered.  .       

 

[lomaxgrUK]

On 1/4/2022 at 11:06 AM, lomaxgrUK said:

 

However, there are still huge concerns in the trenches on Defense for me (I am including OLB pass rush here, too). I mentioned it last year, we did nothing to improve it so I am still mentioning it this year.

This team needs players who consistently impact the backfield in BOTH the run and pass. Given the draft capital and/or money we're going to use for the QB, our scouting departments have to find us gem(s) to do this.

Not that we need further proof of our edge rushing capability, but have a look above.

What this tells us is that our two OLBs are rarely double teamed and yet still they don't generate pass rush win. That is ... Not good.

Again, there are names on there that we've had chances to acquire, either via UDFA or the draft for very little capital. 

Samson Ebukam was a UDFA in 2021 that was signed for peanuts.
Justin Houston was a UDFA in 2021 that was signed for peanuts.
Tarell Basham was a UDFA in 2021 that was signed for peanuts.
Maxx Crosby was a 4th round pick.
Josh Sweat was a 4th round pick.
Jake Martin was a 6th round pick.

Etc, etc, etc.

We really need our scouting department to step up and find one of these diamonds. I must admit, I got a bit too excited about Cooper a little too early. He might just have hit the rookie wall; that said, we require so much more than him if we're to start impacting opposing QB's with our rush.

Edited January 5, 2022 by lomaxgrUK